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tazkcmo

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80. Define civilization

Sat Aug 9, 2014, 11:13 AM

Aug 2014

I don't think shitting in your back yard is civilized. I don't think destroying the very thing you depend on to live is civilized. And I really don't believe it's an either or situation.

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Climate scientist drops the F-bomb after startling Arctic discovery [View all] geardaddy Aug 2014 OP

These plumes have been going for years, so how exactly is this a surprise? redqueen Aug 2014 #1

Because not everyone is aware of it. gtar100 Aug 2014 #3

Point me to where I said it was a "non issue" - oh that's right you can't, cause I didn't. redqueen Aug 2014 #4

No you didn't, but your comments left me with that impression. gtar100 Aug 2014 #7

Yeah, by 'not news' I meant it's OLD news. redqueen Aug 2014 #11

maybe you should read the actual post santroy79 Aug 2014 #71

In the story you cited, the bubbles weren't reaching the surface. Jim__ Aug 2014 #15

OMG this is so frustrating redqueen Aug 2014 #22

According to the expert, the bubbles reaching the surface is what is new, at least to him. Jim__ Aug 2014 #25

I'm so over these kinds of 'discussions'. redqueen Aug 2014 #26

You asked what was new. The story explicitly stated what was new. Jim__ Aug 2014 #28

Oh my god. redqueen Aug 2014 #29

No good look to you! stonecutter357 Aug 2014 #30

I pointed that out in the other thread she links too and she seems upset by what I don't know, neverforget Aug 2014 #56

One BIG frustration I have with DU demwing Aug 2014 #42

One HUGE fucking problem I have with humans who have access to information redqueen Aug 2014 #44

Thank you demwing Aug 2014 #45

No, I didn't "know first". This is not a fucking contest. redqueen Aug 2014 #47

Everyone in this thread has tried to deal with you objectively demwing Aug 2014 #51

LOL, "everyone in this thread"... redqueen Aug 2014 #52

No, NOT "Fucking hell" demwing Aug 2014 #54

Your last article presented as "fact" regarding the methane release NM_Birder Aug 2014 #77

One problem I have is this new meaning of the word hipster navarth Aug 2014 #59

FYI - I'm 51 years old demwing Aug 2014 #75

You can try to correct him, but you would have limited success. navarth Aug 2014 #79

Try reading AlbertCat Aug 2014 #60

:( snagglepuss Aug 2014 #2

Before I read this post... Don't tell me!! The scientist said "We're fucked." Ok, I'll now go ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #5

very sadly reccing. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2014 #6

I guess it needs to be plugged up Jack Rabbit Aug 2014 #8

Head down pscot Aug 2014 #48

It cannot be "plugged up". Period. nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2014 #62

Huh? Phlem Aug 2014 #9

" Kind of makes all the arguing about politics seem small compared to this. " redqueen Aug 2014 #12

Exactly. Louisiana1976 Aug 2014 #32

We're fucked...yup, that sums it up...knr joeybee12 Aug 2014 #10

Relax Socialistlemur Aug 2014 #16

Not panicing tazkcmo Aug 2014 #19

need twitter & blogs? - Maher video Duppers Aug 2014 #34

This, pretty much. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #39

I think Box is pretty impressive- He's been doing this for 20+ years Marrah_G Aug 2014 #50

Yep, let's just sit back and relax and wait to see if this is a real problem. MH1 Aug 2014 #78

Meanwhile, we're fracking the Earth to get methane KamaAina Aug 2014 #13

The lazy idiots doing the cost-benefit analysis redqueen Aug 2014 #14

Lazy idiots is a bit much The2ndWheel Aug 2014 #21

I disagree with your opinions. nt redqueen Aug 2014 #24

"Civilization or not" blackspade Aug 2014 #74

Define civilization tazkcmo Aug 2014 #80

Because it costs a ton of money Socialistlemur Aug 2014 #18

It's too diffuse and too remote. GliderGuider Aug 2014 #20

You mean it's "too costly"? Trillo Aug 2014 #36

No, I mean "impossible with current technology." nt GliderGuider Aug 2014 #70

Here's the difference tazkcmo Aug 2014 #17

The conventional thought is right Socialistlemur Aug 2014 #23

Please define "trash the place"... vkkv Aug 2014 #27

8� C increase in temperature leads to: tclambert Aug 2014 #31

"Near term Human Extinction" (15 years?) = We're Fucked mackdaddy Aug 2014 #33

Guy McPherson? Are you honestly serious? AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #38

Glad to know I am a dumbass. mackdaddy Aug 2014 #40

"Glad to know I am a dumbass." I didn't say or imply that, TBH. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #41

Oil companies could try to capture that methane Trillo Aug 2014 #35

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #37

On the upside. demwing Aug 2014 #43

Silver lining! deurbano Aug 2014 #49

Everyone should see him in the documentary "Chasing Ice" nt Marrah_G Aug 2014 #46

We need a president and a Congress who understand science. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #53

you don't think obama understands or cares? the urgency may be debatable but the certainot Aug 2014 #57

Clinton signed the Telecommunications Act that allows Republican wealthy and corporations JDPriestly Aug 2014 #63

the fairness doctrine was the key to allowing those radio stations to be used as certainot Aug 2014 #65

Yes. Thanks. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #67

His support of "clean coal" and expanding off shore oil exploration says otherwise. progressoid Aug 2014 #64

push dems left by challenging the right's best weapon certainot Aug 2014 #66

Talk radio is not stopping Obama and the other corporate Dems from opposing fossil fuels. progressoid Aug 2014 #68

it's politics and environmental groups give oil/coal radio a free speech free ride and certainot Aug 2014 #76

The oceans can dissolve a lot of gas. When the pressure of the gas overtakes the strength forces DhhD Aug 2014 #55

I attended an IPCC lecture; greiner3 Aug 2014 #58

Forever, from no onwards, whenever anyone denies science for political gain, Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2014 #61

Fuck yeah! Cha Aug 2014 #69

This is the result of corporate rule. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #72

Great. Thanks Petro companies for blocking climate legislation. blackspade Aug 2014 #73