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4. These aren't the same evildoers it was wrong to go after last time....

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Sat Aug 9, 2014, 11:24 AM

Aug 2014

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This time, we'll only kill the right people [View all] MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 OP

People addicted to the gee whiz military technology of Hollywood and TV killer shows do not Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #1

manny gets it questionseverything Aug 2014 #3

Manny gets I, I know. Thanks for the link. Someone should ask if America is aiding IDF. No one does. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #5

I noticed the reporters are very careful about the questions they ask the POTUS. nilesobek Aug 2014 #83

It is possible for the greatest military in the world to do something good. A Simple Game Aug 2014 #33

bombs dropped by democrats only kill bad guys, of course TheSarcastinator Aug 2014 #2

"There's nothing that will stop these 10,000 people from establishing a caliphate from Spain to Chathamization Aug 2014 #12

Okay, how did this relatively miniscule group get so powerful in such a short time? sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #40

Reward the guilty, punish the innocent. It's the American way! Scuba Aug 2014 #64

Yes, this has a rinse and repeat feel to it suffragette Aug 2014 #67

Hi suffragette, I agree. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #68

Yep and add the arms and finanacial support for Syrian rebels, some of whom now are ISIS suffragette Aug 2014 #110

Hi suffragette, I wish I had seen that post you made a year ago. Looking at it now, sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #126

Peace posts don't get the traction they used to on DU suffragette Aug 2014 #132

Sad isn't it, we on the left were the only hope to try to stop all these criminal invasions of sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #133

Yes, there are several things missing from this story: Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #69

Zarqawi? The one we 'killed' multiple times until we finally killed him, the one who had only sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #73

Yeah, that Zarqawi, the petty thief from Lebanon. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #82

Al Zarqawi was a myth. And there was no Al Queda in Iraq until WE BROUGHT IT THERE. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #84

Zarqawi was not "a myth." He was a real person, with a real history. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #85

I know he was a real person. But he was in no way the powerful, AQ Leader we were sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #88

That one, he sure was a good job creator. Every damn time we killed him someone else moved up Autumn Aug 2014 #87

Thank you, sabrina, for bringing up that article... MrMickeysMom Aug 2014 #108

Has no one reported on that anywhere? cui bono Aug 2014 #76

some sources are saying they are financed by the Saudis and by kuwait questionseverything Aug 2014 #91

Yep. Being sold a fairytale again. My guess is that they're not that powerful and they're part of a Chathamization Aug 2014 #79

Good post, some of us aren't suffering from amnesia regarding what has gone on in Iraq sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #123

Thank you. woo me with science Aug 2014 #127

They were funded by the Saudi's and other oil rich Sunni countries. grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #113

Then a bunch of Sunni generals abandoned equipment for them. grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #114

+1 freedom fighter jh Aug 2014 #17

You don't need to make up propaganda about how bad ISIS is. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #27

But, torture is patriotic, no? grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #29

Are you talking to me? Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #71

What are we doing to help the victims of murder in Libya since we left? Would you support sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #43

So many questions. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #75

AND they gassed their OWN PEOPLE!!! mbperrin Aug 2014 #38

Carry on, brave internet warrior...nt SidDithers Aug 2014 #41

In my country, the wise ones have two sayings for those who beat the drum for war. Zorra Aug 2014 #55

when is Canada going to send jets/troops to fight neverforget Aug 2014 #81

These aren't the same evildoers it was wrong to go after last time.... Pholus Aug 2014 #4

And then they woke up malaise Aug 2014 #6

They never really wake up. There's the rub. elias49 Aug 2014 #8

and those of us who stayed awake the whole time are left to despair TheSarcastinator Aug 2014 #9

Yes it is. zeemike Aug 2014 #18

This time I disagree with you, Manny Cyrano Aug 2014 #7

If we wanted to stop the slaughter of the Iraqi people, over one million of them, and the sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #45

This whole thing smells...at first, I was all for helping those poor people trapped on a mountain. Stardust Aug 2014 #93

Exactly. Remember when we used to be slammed by the Bushbots for saying that the Iraq sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #107

Good ol' "Operation Iraqi Liberation." So obvious what the whole thing was about that it's Stardust Aug 2014 #109

Of course Charlie Brown, this time is for real. Lucy won't pull the ball away. rhett o rick Aug 2014 #104

talk about doing good bigtree Aug 2014 #10

Yeah, its getting much better RobertEarl Aug 2014 #11

Rumsfeld: "It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months" woo me with science Aug 2014 #13

Well, fer Chrissake, Perle was absolutely right. Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #15

Boy, they sure weren't. woo me with science Aug 2014 #20

My kid graduates high school in ten years .... SomeGuyInEagan Aug 2014 #118

Obama: "This will be a long-term project" leftstreet Aug 2014 #23

Good god. nt woo me with science Aug 2014 #26

Here's a better suggestion regarding the 'diplomatic personnel', they just did it in Libya sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #47

You are right to note that we may very well end up at war again. Laelth Aug 2014 #14

No, our first duty is to stop making it worse which we have continuously failed to do TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #22

Can't agree with you Cyrano Aug 2014 #24

It's time to stop imagining what we wish the MIC would do, and look at the actual record. woo me with science Aug 2014 #35

^^^^K&R^^^^ n/t ReRe Aug 2014 #98

Ditto. eom littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #111

Why does 'fixing' Iraq have to be done with the military? swilton Aug 2014 #36

I can't address what we should have done differently. Laelth Aug 2014 #53

We continued to support the dictator Maliki, despite warnings of his brutal treatment sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #49

I am no fan of Maliki. Laelth Aug 2014 #52

Over a year ago, people were calling for Maliki to step down as his brutal treatment sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #56

We were stupid to think that Democracy would work well in Iraq. Laelth Aug 2014 #58

Of course we are responsible, and despite how it looks, we succeeded in OUR goals, sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #60

This should be an OP. woo me with science Aug 2014 #99

And, we'll have the "unfortunate deaths", "human shields" speeches ready when we don't. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #16

Don't worry, be happy ... GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #19

F'ing moonbats PowerToThePeople Aug 2014 #21

You know the funniest thing in your OP? Kiriakou is a torturer who defended msanthrope Aug 2014 #25

So you disagree with the contention that MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #30

He wasn't put in jail for exposing torture, Manny. He pled guilty to msanthrope Aug 2014 #37

*Pled* guilty. Interesting. MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #51

Of course there was a plea....he chickenshitted out from a trial after his msanthrope Aug 2014 #54

so the penalty for the crime he pled guilty to MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #57

Manny...instead of the rhetorical gambits, why not state your point? msanthrope Aug 2014 #59

Seems like I asked an inconvenient question. MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #62

Seems like you picked a CIA operative who defended torture as a poor msanthrope Aug 2014 #66

LOL. Must be frustrating. nt MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #77

For you, perhaps. In the meantime, I am enjoying your current run. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #94

Me too. zappaman Aug 2014 #134

Maliki is a torturer, murderer and brutal dictator and our government is supporting HIM. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #50

Are you stalking Manny? You seem not to have much to add, just here to get on Manny's case. rhett o rick Aug 2014 #105

I'm stalking Manny? Is that how he feels? nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #115

It's how it looks. rhett o rick Aug 2014 #131

I knew Manny would... ClarkeVII Aug 2014 #28

Neener neener, ritual chants, don't get santimonious, look forward, patriots torture folks Corruption Inc Aug 2014 #31

You forgot "propaganda paradigm". You've been using that one for years...nt SidDithers Aug 2014 #72

You forgot to mention we got a liability contract signed so we can't get sued. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #32

he'll do all the wrong things for the right reasons! or maybe say "antiwar activism is the MisterP Aug 2014 #34

So you seriously want us to just stand by while Boko Haram slaughter innocents? Chathamization Aug 2014 #39

K&R.... daleanime Aug 2014 #42

Iraq War II: Electric Boogaloo Die Harder Initech Aug 2014 #44

Mistified..... wow. Great minirant, k&r. DocwillCuNow Aug 2014 #46

Tough John McCain knows who the killers are: he's looked into their eyes ..... marble falls Aug 2014 #48

You mean "suspected militants" aren't the right people? hughee99 Aug 2014 #61

To avoid counting civilian deaths, Obama re-defined "militant" to mean "all military-age males woo me with science Aug 2014 #80

Try a straightforward approach to what you have to say, Manny. MineralMan Aug 2014 #63

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I suppose so. MineralMan Aug 2014 #70

A majority of DUers fully understand Manny's posts. The small minority who don't sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #103

Hahaha pa28 Aug 2014 #74

Meh Shivering Jemmy Aug 2014 #78

K&R DeSwiss Aug 2014 #86

Nice! nt littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #112

+1000000 The moral dumpster fire. woo me with science Aug 2014 #116

Manny, I am encouraged that you now realize the USA is the greatest nation ever. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #89

So, who's profiting off our newest killing spree in Iraq??? blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #90

Lots of mercenary groups, possibly our old friends Blackwater, or whatever they are calling sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #106

And the banks. woo me with science Aug 2014 #117

Yes, when you think about it, it has all worked out the way the neocons told us sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #124

so, ya think we should stand around waiting for the genocide? Will that "work" for you? What will? bettyellen Aug 2014 #92

Remember when I wanted to stand around waiting for MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #95

Wow, so this thread IS about Manny! Well yeah, not interested. bettyellen Aug 2014 #122

So you ask about *my* thoughts, I give you my thoughts, MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #128

I asked WHAT you thought WOULD work better. And got no real answer..... bettyellen Aug 2014 #129

those talking points dug out and brushed off from the free republic archives m-lekktor Aug 2014 #96

Thank you! vlakitti Aug 2014 #97

Indeed. woo me with science Aug 2014 #101

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Waaaaah! The world's not a pacifist utopia!!! tabasco Aug 2014 #102

Yes indeed Manny. We can rest assured this will be a kinder, gentler bombing. Autumn Aug 2014 #119

ISIS scares me. n/t SylviaD Aug 2014 #120

K&R woo me with science Aug 2014 #121

At least they'll look like the right people. marble falls Aug 2014 #125

we'll get it right this time! KG Aug 2014 #130