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Laelth

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11. Saddam Hussein gassed them because they wanted independence.
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 11:32 AM
Aug 2014

Or, so I understand. The Kurds have been a problem for Iran, Turkey, and Iraq for a long time. They are independent-minded and have long fought for their own, independent country. Saddam Hussein had to fight them to keep them in line, and this was one of the excuses that we used in 2003 to go to war against Saddam, but the Kurdish independence movement is nothing new. They were never fully integrated into Iraq. They have never been fully integrated into either Turkey or Iran. They see themselves (with good reason) as an independent nation living in hostile territory. The breakdown of Iraq as a sovereign state (which we facilitated) gave them hope for independence. At present, the Shiite government of Iraq can't help them. They're barely holding their ground against IS. IS, for its part, is determined to exterminate heretics (like the Kurds), and given that the Shiite Iraqi government can't protect the Kurds, they are defenseless. They are trying to hold their own against IS, but IS inherited Saddam Hussein's military institutional knowledge and have seized a lot of weapons that give them an advantage over the Kurds. Only the United States can help the Kurds at the moment.

You're right to worry that we may become entangled, militarily, in this region for another 13 years. I am not happy about that, but I see no viable alternative. IS is a very real threat to peace and stability, and we continue to have vital interests in the Middle East.



-Laelth

Who will help the Kurds? [View all] Laelth Aug 2014 OP
Probably not so much the same people who broke Iraq but those janitors who clean up the mess. gordianot Aug 2014 #1
IS is still weak. Laelth Aug 2014 #3
ask yourself this question and answer honestly please. politicman Aug 2014 #2
I don't care which President authorized it, IronGate Aug 2014 #4
I hear you. Laelth Aug 2014 #5
thanks for your respectful answer, and heres my response. politicman Aug 2014 #8
What is the history of the Kurds that seems to end up in their being in trouble with everyone? jwirr Aug 2014 #6
They have a very interesting history, in fact. Laelth Aug 2014 #7
Agreed. I just worry that we will be there another 13 years. Also asked the question because I jwirr Aug 2014 #9
Saddam Hussein gassed them because they wanted independence. Laelth Aug 2014 #11
I am glad I asked. I now understand a lot more of what is going on. Feeling very sorry for the Kurds jwirr Aug 2014 #16
It appears that there are about 4 million Kurds in Iraq. Laelth Aug 2014 #17
Thank you. I am hoping for the best for them. These wars and the hate our world seems to jwirr Aug 2014 #18
At this point it's a low cost experiment to see if flamingdem Aug 2014 #10
No doubt. Laelth Aug 2014 #12
Who Else, Besides Americans, Are Flying Fighter Jets in Iraq? bigtree Aug 2014 #13
Turkey, Iran, Syria, and Iraq are all rightly afraid of IS. Laelth Aug 2014 #14
the US and other nations are stepping up their humanitarian aid bigtree Aug 2014 #15
I want to thank you for this excellent thread Jim Beard Aug 2014 #19
You are quite welcome. Laelth Aug 2014 #20
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