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Scootaloo

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5. I'm iffy

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Sat Aug 9, 2014, 12:53 PM

Aug 2014

By now, it's pretty clear that the Iraq military either lacks the capability or the will to stand up against ISIS. I suppose i really can't blame them, Iraqis have been living under the horror of war for nearly forty years now.

But regardless, this leaves ISIS free reign to do as they please. And "as they please" seems to involve killing a bunch of people who can't fight back.

I believe in humanitarian interventions. Iraq is not capable. And I don't know if Iraq is going to allow Iran, or Turkey, or Syria to operate against ISIS within Iraq - But I know Iraq allows the US to do so.

So if we have the ability and the means, should we sit back and go "yeah no, you're on your own. Sorry for fueling this frnkenstein's monster that's slaughtering your asses, but, ah, gotta go!"

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Do you support military action against ISIS? [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 OP

Only military action I support is defense of direct invasion of USA homeland. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2014 #1

Sad you last post got hidden? eom MohRokTah Aug 2014 #7

Why don't you post a repeat of the last post you had hidden? IronGate Aug 2014 #10

Sometimes it's hard sharp_stick Aug 2014 #15

Would you have supported using US troops to liberate the Nazi concentration camps? (nt) Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #26

No, it was a German decision and none of our business. It was Japan that Jim Beard Aug 2014 #62

voted no because... Takket Aug 2014 #2

Yes, by Iran, Turkey, Iraq, and Syria. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #3

Lebanon has the military capabilities of your average high school Scootaloo Aug 2014 #6

Yeah. And Hezbollah is already pretty busy in Syria. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #9

I don't think Turkey is interested Scootaloo Aug 2014 #12

It might be in Turkey's interest to get interested. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #18

Been saying it since 2010... Scootaloo Aug 2014 #19

Turkey's main interest is not losing territory when Kurdistan happens, LeftyMom Aug 2014 #39

Interesting. joshcryer Aug 2014 #46

Someone needs to tell "ISIS" about Isis. I heartily approve of her message. moriah Aug 2014 #4

I'm iffy Scootaloo Aug 2014 #5

Looks like many DUers support the genocide of the Yadizis. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #8

well that didn't take long n/t leftstreet Aug 2014 #11

They're just people. conservaphobe Aug 2014 #13

That's a sleazy cheap shot. I haven't heard you calling for an invasion of the Congo. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #25

I would support air strikes in the Congo where they could stop the killers. eom MohRokTah Aug 2014 #36

How about air strikes in Nigeria? former9thward Aug 2014 #41

There is no genocide occuring in Ukraine. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #43

So if there is "genocide" occurring we should attack? former9thward Aug 2014 #59

Oh wait, so now you're AGAINST bombings? Scootaloo Aug 2014 #45

You can pretend the U.S. is responding to the Gaza rockets former9thward Aug 2014 #58

The same ISIS jamzrockz Aug 2014 #53

What personnel are we supposedly protecting over there? I thought we left. Mercenaries sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #14

YES, but ONLY by air. NO boots on the ground. napi21 Aug 2014 #16

+1 million Louisiana1976 Aug 2014 #34

small technical mistake, but illustrative of the media in the U.S politicman Aug 2014 #52

stop tossing arms and money at the meta-Salafists in Syria and we won't have to bomb them MisterP Aug 2014 #17

By whom? GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #20

ISIS is just another "made up" enemy eom indie9197 Aug 2014 #21

. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #22

Could you please elaborate? Throd Aug 2014 #24

Yeah, no. NuclearDem Aug 2014 #29

There is video of 1400 young men being executed brutally. joshcryer Aug 2014 #47

This is the video I saw 3 or 4 weeks ago sammythecat Aug 2014 #56

They're so evil they have Mahdi army after them. joshcryer Aug 2014 #57

yes. no. yes. no. don't know. La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2014 #23

Certainly not unilateral or western-only military action. Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #27

No. there are other powers in the Middle East who need to step up and deal with this problem. Autumn Aug 2014 #28

In conjunction with the other governments in the region. NuclearDem Aug 2014 #30

There is a HUGE difference between Obama and Bush. RandySF Aug 2014 #31

And the Iraqi government ASKED for our help JoePhilly Aug 2014 #33

aaaah DEM wars are good! ok. m-lekktor Aug 2014 #38

Yes, dropping bombs on ISIS does not help ISIS. joshcryer Aug 2014 #48

Exactly, it's like people giving Nixon shit for Vietnam. hughee99 Aug 2014 #51

I wish there were an "I don't know" option NightWatcher Aug 2014 #32

I will admit, Isis is evil DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #35

We should do with Iraq with what the British Jim Beard Aug 2014 #63

How about first cutting off their supply of arms and money... JackRiddler Aug 2014 #37

Shh! BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #40

Maybe if they had "Open Carry" Jim Beard Aug 2014 #64

Airstrikes to protect civilian populated areas or enclaves only. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #42

I think the question is too simplistic Marrah_G Aug 2014 #44

If Irbil falls to Jihadistan, the Iranians will invade former Iraq from the north. roamer65 Aug 2014 #49

Plenty here were saying Baghdad was about to fall to ISIS two months ago Chathamization Aug 2014 #54

Nope. Iggo Aug 2014 #50

No. What's happening in Iraq isn't our problem. chrisa Aug 2014 #55

I voted yes because we will either be fighting them now Calista241 Aug 2014 #60

I used to think that but Afganistan cured me of that. Jim Beard Aug 2014 #65

I just don't want this to be another Rwanda. n/t Calista241 Aug 2014 #66

Nope, we have done all we are capable and willing to do. Any number of countries have TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #61