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BrotherIvan

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46. The final straw was the torture apologia

Sat Aug 9, 2014, 01:01 PM

Aug 2014

Agreeing that torture was necessary. Bringing out the tired excuse that Congress wouldn't let him, though Congress doesn't have a damn thing to do with it. Excuses for every inaction, but cheers for every small deed. Every speech makes them proud whether it's true or not. We must all swoon as they do or we're racist haters and fringe left. And now we have war apologia on the greatest page.

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Obama:�If you blow the whistle-You should be thanked & protected for doing the right thing" [View all] kpete Aug 2014 OP

I can only assume... gcomeau Aug 2014 #1

No, the NSA officials belong in a cell. Snowden deserves a Medal of Freedom. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #3

Oh FFS... gcomeau Aug 2014 #6

We're Chinese, now? GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #8

What the hell are you talking about? gcomeau Aug 2014 #10

No Proof To Support That Position - All Supposition Based On Right-Wing Talking Points cantbeserious Aug 2014 #20

Are you freaking kidding? gcomeau Aug 2014 #29

All Assertion - No Proof - More Talking Point Bluster cantbeserious Aug 2014 #33

Are you seriously this clueless on this? gcomeau Aug 2014 #35

I applaud him for revealing the economic spying on China. Vattel Aug 2014 #40

It was not "economic spying" gcomeau Aug 2014 #65

here is a very conservative discussion of the issue: Vattel Aug 2014 #80

Uh-huh... from your own link gcomeau Aug 2014 #81

nah, your definition of economic espionage is too narrow Vattel Aug 2014 #86

Then I repeat... gcomeau Aug 2014 #87

Yes there was evidence of its being done, namely, Clapper's statements. Vattel Aug 2014 #88

That statement contains nothing of the kind. gcomeau Aug 2014 #90

They are using espionage for economic advantage. That is economic espionage. Vattel Aug 2014 #91

They specifically denied any use for economic advantage. gcomeau Aug 2014 #94

No, they didn't deny any use for economic advantage. Vattel Aug 2014 #95

Are You Seriously This Misguided To Believe Right Wing Talking Points cantbeserious Aug 2014 #43

Wow you're delusional. gcomeau Aug 2014 #64

Right Back To You - Enjoy The Propoganda cantbeserious Aug 2014 #66

WHAT FUCKING PROPAGANDA???? gcomeau Aug 2014 #67

The Propaganda One Is Pushing cantbeserious Aug 2014 #69

Which "One"? Greenwald? Because you're ignoring he admitted this too. -eom gcomeau Aug 2014 #72

Dream On cantbeserious Aug 2014 #74

I. Directly. Quoted. Him. Admitting. It. gcomeau Aug 2014 #75

Dream On cantbeserious Aug 2014 #82

Keep Trolling kid. -eom gcomeau Aug 2014 #84

Dream On - Kid cantbeserious Aug 2014 #85

+100000 woo me with science Aug 2014 #12

So morality is predicated on what you personally like or don't like? randome Aug 2014 #14

You say that like its a bad thing. Pholus Aug 2014 #54

He purloined that info; we don't know what else is contained in those other documents he stole. lumpy Aug 2014 #18

What About The Harm Those Papers Are Doing To American Citizens Daily cantbeserious Aug 2014 #21

Like the guy who got a copy of the Pentagon Papers and broadcast it to the world? n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2014 #4

Sigh... gcomeau Aug 2014 #7

Exposing economic espionage by the USA was whistleblowing. Vattel Aug 2014 #41

Except he did no such thing... -eom gcomeau Aug 2014 #78

But that was different! A Republican was in office! Scootaloo Aug 2014 #51

Good point lumpy Aug 2014 #15

Are you aware that this administration has prosecuted more Whistle Blowers than sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #36

Exactly, Snowden's wasn't a whistleblower.. Cha Aug 2014 #39

Seems to be a big inconsistency there... BillZBubb Aug 2014 #2

But, But - He Labeled Snowden A Traitor - Can't Have It Both Ways Mr. President cantbeserious Aug 2014 #5

Yes he can. Not every release of classified info is "whistleblowing". -eom gcomeau Aug 2014 #9

Many Disagree With That Perspective cantbeserious Aug 2014 #11

Many lack the ability to see the difference. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #13

That appears to be the truth lumpy Aug 2014 #16

Many Are Myopically In Love With The President cantbeserious Aug 2014 #19

Corruption and shameless propaganda go hand in hand. nt woo me with science Aug 2014 #23

Too True - The Myopic President Lovers - Forever In The Dark cantbeserious Aug 2014 #24

And THE LAW disagrees with them. So... -eom gcomeau Aug 2014 #30

Hmm ... Just Like The Laws Broken Desecrating The 4th Amendment cantbeserious Aug 2014 #32

Which doesn't have one damn thing to do... gcomeau Aug 2014 #34

No Proof Snowden Leaked Anything To China - Right Wing Talking Point cantbeserious Aug 2014 #42

You live in your own little fantasy world. gcomeau Aug 2014 #68

Enjoy Your Fantasies cantbeserious Aug 2014 #70

You mean Greenwald's fantasies? Is he a right wing propagandist also??? -eom gcomeau Aug 2014 #71

Dream On cantbeserious Aug 2014 #73

Pathetic. gcomeau Aug 2014 #76

Dream On cantbeserious Aug 2014 #83

Chelsea Manning too, stated that he 'broke the law' before he even had a trial. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #37

They're protecting the hell out of Chelsea Manning gratuitous Aug 2014 #17

Lies upon lies upon lies. woo me with science Aug 2014 #22

Yup. n/t elias49 Aug 2014 #25

Duplicity - Thy Name Was Republican - Now Democrat cantbeserious Aug 2014 #26

+1 As long as we had an opposition party, we had some hope of holding off the worst. woo me with science Aug 2014 #28

+1... KoKo Aug 2014 #97

And so-called "Democrats" defend it BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #31

We sure are getting a rude awakening. Maybe it's an experiment to see how much sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #38

The final straw was the torture apologia BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #46

That and the 100% Senate vote in favor of Israel's brutal attacks on Gaza. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #47

I don't understand it all BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #49

Exactly.. sendero Aug 2014 #57

^^^this^^^ L0oniX Aug 2014 #92

Nobody ever accused a politician of not knowing what to SAY rock Aug 2014 #27

Notice HE HASN'T THANKED OR PROTECTED ANY WHISTLEBLOWERS? Ichingcarpenter Aug 2014 #44

About right BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #45

^^^^^^^ MOST IMPORTANT POST IN THE THREAD ^^^^^^^ woo me with science Aug 2014 #48

perfect meme. nt m-lekktor Aug 2014 #60

Talk is cheap n/t markpkessinger Aug 2014 #50

Hypocrisy is just another name for political expediency. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #52

Another case of watch what I do because it sure as fuck doesn't match what I say. Autumn Aug 2014 #53

They are coming fast and furious now, woo me with science Aug 2014 #55

I heard a similar pitch from someone at "clunkers r us." n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2014 #56

K&R for the lies. woo me with science Aug 2014 #58

There is a Whistleblower Act which protects whistleblowers and a Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #59

Kick. Expose the lies. woo me with science Aug 2014 #61

Sometimes you gotta say it like it is. 99Forever Aug 2014 #62

+1000000000 woo me with science Aug 2014 #63

HP: "Edward Snowden In 2009: Leakers Should Be 'Shot In The Balls' Tarheel_Dem Aug 2014 #77

You're saying the President no longer accepts the position cited in the OP? /nt Marr Aug 2014 #89

I'm sure some of you are consumed with this, but it don't put food on the table, and the American... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2014 #79

He speaks so well that even the lies sound good. L0oniX Aug 2014 #93

I hate to say this....but...i KoKo Aug 2014 #96