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35. Dishonest Headline, Sir: Took Place Before any Air Strikes

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Sat Aug 9, 2014, 01:19 PM

Aug 2014

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/iraq-official-militants-hold-100s-yazidi-women

"Amin's comments were the first Iraqi government confirmation that some women were being held by the group. On Tuesday, Yazidi lawmaker Vian Dakheel made an emotional plea in parliament to the Iraqi government to save the Yazidi people, saying the "women have been sold in a slavery market.""

Last time I looked, Tuesday came before Thursday, and certainly before Friday....

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We are already making things worse with our air strikes in Iraq. [View all] another_liberal Aug 2014 OP

So we should let ISIS kill them ... so that ISIS won't kidnap them? JoePhilly Aug 2014 #1

We should not invade Iraq in 2003 . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #4

So let ISIS kill them because that would be better. Got it. JoePhilly Aug 2014 #6

Your comment suggests we have the means to prevent Isamic State atrocities . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #13

Oh, we most certainly do have the means. SQUEE Aug 2014 #16

I was referring to our use of military methods . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #64

We do, indeed, have the power to crush IS if we choose to do so. n/t Laelth Aug 2014 #21

What does that do? You think they are some random thing that won't continuously reformat? TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #57

I said "could" not "should." Laelth Aug 2014 #62

I said nothing about them being Sunni leaders at all. I said the ISIS is a symptom TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #86

Been there, tried that (more than once) . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #65

Cant stop them all, dont stop any. got it. JoePhilly Aug 2014 #39

Sure we do Shivering Jemmy Aug 2014 #49

I know how hard it must be to accept . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #95

+1000 PowerToThePeople Aug 2014 #7

Thank you . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #11

So you and the poster above you would just sit by and let genocide and ethnic cleansing happen? IronGate Aug 2014 #23

Like Obama did for Gaza? RobertEarl Aug 2014 #28

This thread isn't about the I/P conflict, but nice try at diversion. IronGate Aug 2014 #29

Twice? RobertEarl Aug 2014 #32

Once again, this isn't about the I/P conflict, but nice try at diversion. IronGate Aug 2014 #34

They always go back to Gaza LordGlenconner Aug 2014 #42

You should be ashamed of your post. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #79

"To a hammer," someone once said, "everything looks like a nail." another_liberal Aug 2014 #96

I see targeted airstrikes as an temporary answer to take out the heavy armaments that IronGate Aug 2014 #97

Being in a minority here has never bothered me that much . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #100

I agree that it has to be short term, at least until the Kurdish Army IronGate Aug 2014 #101

But we might save more people by blowing up Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #53

Ah, so you think ISIS is just a group of misunderstood freedom fighters, perhaps. randome Aug 2014 #12

I said nothing remotely like that . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #14

Neither do I. But I don't blame Obama for trying to do something. randome Aug 2014 #15

+1000. nt. IronGate Aug 2014 #30

"The Islamic State is composed of the worst kind of murders and monsters." Does this include Hamas? LTX Aug 2014 #52

Worse than what? Gman Aug 2014 #2

Worse than otherwise . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #5

air strikes will not do any good, so why use them? politicman Aug 2014 #3

Good points . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #9

We ae not hitting in population centers, we are striking troops and assets in the field, SQUEE Aug 2014 #18

Unproven assertion Shivering Jemmy Aug 2014 #50

The right kind of airstrikes will do 2 things, decimate ISIL SQUEE Aug 2014 #17

there are no right air strikes, without a target airstrikes are useless... politicman Aug 2014 #20

ISIS is not a guerrilla force hack89 Aug 2014 #24

believe what you like if it will make you feel better about air strikes... politicman Aug 2014 #25

ok nt hack89 Aug 2014 #26

They didn't "defeat" the Iraqis to get the heavy equipment they currently have NickB79 Aug 2014 #45

i look at facts on the ground to support my assertion that ISIS is not so easy to slow down... politicman Aug 2014 #88

Thanks, Hack, you are like a Truther RobertEarl Aug 2014 #31

You seem more over wrought than normal hack89 Aug 2014 #71

Heh RobertEarl Aug 2014 #89

Yes they are, there are plenty of Chechen fighters in ISIS who fought against the Russians... riseabove Aug 2014 #77

ISIS is not a guerrilla force Shivering Jemmy Aug 2014 #51

You can't fight with guerilla tactics if you have terrirory? Lol huh? riseabove Aug 2014 #78

You really have no idea how effective properly applied air power works SQUEE Aug 2014 #85

Remember Serbia and Bosnia and Kosovo Bandit Aug 2014 #19

not the same sceanrio politicman Aug 2014 #22

Even ISIS uses tanks, Humvees, armored vehicles, and weapon-mount trucks NickB79 Aug 2014 #43

That's exactly what I've been saying, IronGate Aug 2014 #54

...according to RT... SidDithers Aug 2014 #8

Russians have feelings too!! JoePhilly Aug 2014 #10

C'mon, Sid.... Adsos Letter Aug 2014 #90

"taken captive by ISIS" conservaphobe Aug 2014 #27

I don't know where Russia Today has been, but I saw the story of the captured women before the US MH1 Aug 2014 #33

reading comprehension? reorg Aug 2014 #68

Dishonest Headline, Sir: Took Place Before any Air Strikes The Magistrate Aug 2014 #35

Not according to the RT calendar. onenote Aug 2014 #37

The headline should read "Vlad Sez..." Bobbie Jo Aug 2014 #38

Well played! zappaman Aug 2014 #40

An RT pusher using a "Dishonest Headline"?! Shocking! or Cha Aug 2014 #66

Put down the crack pipe, Vlad. moondust Aug 2014 #36

I'm not trying to be an ass and I do respect you for presenting another side of the argument. PragmaticLiberal Aug 2014 #41

This news item has been reported elsewhere reorg Aug 2014 #44

The Problem, Sir, Is The Dates, And The O.P.'s Distortion Of Them The Magistrate Aug 2014 #47

not so quick reorg Aug 2014 #61

That, Sir, Is Nothing But 'another_liberal' Speculating The Magistrate Aug 2014 #69

speculation indeed reorg Aug 2014 #72

His Claim Of Fact is Extremely Dishonest, Sir, Just As His Chronology Is Incoherent The Magistrate Aug 2014 #73

what claim of fact? n/t reorg Aug 2014 #76

You know, I'm getting sick and tired of your RT stories. ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #46

We should refute the content of posts, not simply sneer at the source. Maedhros Aug 2014 #55

It's already been shot down a couple of time upthread. Do I need to repeat it? nt ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #56

I'm just advocating against attacking the source. It is a weak argument. [n/t] Maedhros Aug 2014 #59

It is a weak source. nt ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #60

Yes, it's Putin's Propaganda and anyone who can't realize that hasn't been Cha Aug 2014 #67

It's already been shot down several times. IronGate Aug 2014 #58

Not to make too fine a point, however . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #104

Ok, that's a fair point, IronGate Aug 2014 #105

Of course you could be right . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #106

actually, in my experience RT is a good source reorg Aug 2014 #75

They were captured before the US got involved Renew Deal Aug 2014 #48

Really? The official source suggests otherwise. another_liberal Aug 2014 #63

well, it's not entirely clear reorg Aug 2014 #70

Point taken . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #80

I first read about the abduction of these women several days prior to the airstrikes so this is bs Bluenorthwest Aug 2014 #74

Why don't you show us a link . . .? another_liberal Aug 2014 #83

Here are just two links. Jenoch Aug 2014 #84

Where does that article mention four hundred women being kidnapped? another_liberal Aug 2014 #93

Not only have several others shown you links, but you could use a search engine and find facts Bluenorthwest Aug 2014 #102

Wednesday was the day . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #103

it seems to be the nature of "airstrikes" to make matters worse n/t reorg Aug 2014 #81

Airstrikes really only work with boots on the ground to clean up. Airstrikes really are for riseabove Aug 2014 #82

Actually it sounds like things are getting better.. DCBob Aug 2014 #87

This has been reported on German TV (Heute Journal) three days ago Blaukraut Aug 2014 #91

Really? another_liberal Aug 2014 #94

Here Blaukraut Aug 2014 #98

Thanks, Blue . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #99

If Irbil falls to Jihadistan, I predict an Iranian invasion of former Iraq. roamer65 Aug 2014 #92