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In reply to the discussion: Hamas could have chosen peace. Instead, it made Gaza suffer. [View all]former9thward
(33,424 posts)52. We can trade quotes all day.
Since 1948 Arab leaders have approached the Palestine problem
in an irresponsible manner.... they have used the Palestine
people for selfish political purposes. This is ridiculous and,
I could say, even criminal.
-- King Hussein of Jordan, 1960
Since 1948 it is we who demanded the return of the refugees... while it is we who made them leave.... We brought disaster upon ... Arab refugees, by inviting them and bringing pressure to bear upon them to leave.... We have rendered them dispossessed.... We have accustomed them to begging.... We have participated in lowering their moral and social level.... Then we exploited them in executing crimes of murder, arson, and throwing bombs upon ... men, women and children-all this in the service of political purposes .
-- Khaled Al-Azm, Syria's Prime Minister after the 1948 war
District Police Headquarters
(C.I.D.)
P.O.B. 700.
Haifa.
26th April, 1948.
S E C R E T
A/A.I.G., C.I.D.
Subject:- General Situation Haifa District.
Haifa remains quiet. Yesterday produced a noticeable change in the general atmosphere and businesses and shops in the lower town were open for the first time in many days. Traffic started to move normally around the:town and people returning to the places of business filled the streets. In fact, Haifa presented a more normal appearance than it had done for a long while. Some Arabs were seen moving among the Jews in the lower town and German Colony area and these were allowed free and unmolested passage. An appeal has been made to the Arabs by the Jews to reopen their shops and businesses in order to relieve the difficulties of feeding the Arab population. Evacuation was still going on yesterday and several trips were made by 'Z' craft to Acre. Roads too, were crowded with people leaving Haifa with all their belongings. At a meeting yesterday afternoon Arab leaders reiterated their determination to evacuate the entire Arab population and they have been given the loan of ten 3-ton military trucks as from this morning to assist the evacuation.
Yesterday morning a Jew attempted to pass the drop barrier of Police H.Q. facing Palmers Gate wheeling a barrow. He was shot and killed by a Police sentry.
At 0640 hrs. yesterday Tireh village was again attacked with mortar fire. Casualties and damage not known.
A report has been received from Military to the effect that at 23.50 hrs. yesterday Jews attacked Acre from the direction of Ein Hamifratz and Tall al Pukhkhar. An advance Party succeeded in demolishing three houses in the Manshiya Quarter and then heavy mortar fire was directed at the town. Several mortar bombs landed in Acre Prison and all the inmates have escaped. The British Warden staff are safe. Military proceeded to the scene and opened fire with artillery on Ein Hemifratz. The Jews thereupon withdrew and a convoy of 11 vehicles was seen proceeding in the direction of Haifa. casualties to both sides are not known.
(A.J. Bidmead.)
for SUPERINTENDENT OF POLICE

But at the end of the day you will believe what you want to fit your agenda. And I will do the same.
in an irresponsible manner.... they have used the Palestine
people for selfish political purposes. This is ridiculous and,
I could say, even criminal.
-- King Hussein of Jordan, 1960
Since 1948 it is we who demanded the return of the refugees... while it is we who made them leave.... We brought disaster upon ... Arab refugees, by inviting them and bringing pressure to bear upon them to leave.... We have rendered them dispossessed.... We have accustomed them to begging.... We have participated in lowering their moral and social level.... Then we exploited them in executing crimes of murder, arson, and throwing bombs upon ... men, women and children-all this in the service of political purposes .
-- Khaled Al-Azm, Syria's Prime Minister after the 1948 war
District Police Headquarters
(C.I.D.)
P.O.B. 700.
Haifa.
26th April, 1948.
S E C R E T
A/A.I.G., C.I.D.
Subject:- General Situation Haifa District.
Haifa remains quiet. Yesterday produced a noticeable change in the general atmosphere and businesses and shops in the lower town were open for the first time in many days. Traffic started to move normally around the:town and people returning to the places of business filled the streets. In fact, Haifa presented a more normal appearance than it had done for a long while. Some Arabs were seen moving among the Jews in the lower town and German Colony area and these were allowed free and unmolested passage. An appeal has been made to the Arabs by the Jews to reopen their shops and businesses in order to relieve the difficulties of feeding the Arab population. Evacuation was still going on yesterday and several trips were made by 'Z' craft to Acre. Roads too, were crowded with people leaving Haifa with all their belongings. At a meeting yesterday afternoon Arab leaders reiterated their determination to evacuate the entire Arab population and they have been given the loan of ten 3-ton military trucks as from this morning to assist the evacuation.
Yesterday morning a Jew attempted to pass the drop barrier of Police H.Q. facing Palmers Gate wheeling a barrow. He was shot and killed by a Police sentry.
At 0640 hrs. yesterday Tireh village was again attacked with mortar fire. Casualties and damage not known.
A report has been received from Military to the effect that at 23.50 hrs. yesterday Jews attacked Acre from the direction of Ein Hamifratz and Tall al Pukhkhar. An advance Party succeeded in demolishing three houses in the Manshiya Quarter and then heavy mortar fire was directed at the town. Several mortar bombs landed in Acre Prison and all the inmates have escaped. The British Warden staff are safe. Military proceeded to the scene and opened fire with artillery on Ein Hemifratz. The Jews thereupon withdrew and a convoy of 11 vehicles was seen proceeding in the direction of Haifa. casualties to both sides are not known.
(A.J. Bidmead.)
for SUPERINTENDENT OF POLICE

But at the end of the day you will believe what you want to fit your agenda. And I will do the same.
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well if you don't accept the history from the standpoint of a former Israeli Foreign Minister
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2014
#45
It's disappointing the evidence that is rejected out of hand..especially in this case. n/t
Jefferson23
Aug 2014
#46
It is an indication of how much effort is placed on the propaganda for this conflict...fierce. n/t
Jefferson23
Aug 2014
#69
NYT April 22, 1948:The Arabs agreed to leave Haifa by sea as a surrender condition to Zionist forces
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2014
#55
Not at all. The claim is a hateful fraud and part of a malicious propaganda campaign.
Fozzledick
Aug 2014
#10
Please. Whatever you tell yourself you are doing, you routinely personally attack DUers.
morningfog
Aug 2014
#13
I think the more apt question is, how close does a country need to get to that definiton before
Jefferson23
Aug 2014
#68
Petition asking White House to defund ‘apartheid’ Israel surpasses 100K signatures
4now
Aug 2014
#33
Nor would it be happening if Hamas didn't spend the early 2000s blowing up Israeli civilians
oberliner
Aug 2014
#18
Clawing our way back to the earlier 2000's eh? The "Bulldozer/Butcher" Sharon legacy
Purveyor
Aug 2014
#23
You mean the Palestinians could have given in to Israeli occupation and brutalization.
BillZBubb
Aug 2014
#22
Because killing is never right and it never leads to anything but more killing. nt
Live and Learn
Aug 2014
#35