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49. Which brings us back to the starting point.

Sat Aug 9, 2014, 01:38 PM

Aug 2014

While this action is couched in humanitarian terms, it remains a military action. Military force should be used when there is a defined goal and a strategy to achieve that goal. This decision looks like a no-brainer but the long term rationale behind it has not been articulated.

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So, just so I got this straight... [View all] Drunken Irishman Aug 2014 OP

will suddenly make it a tropical paradise? bowens43 Aug 2014 #1

Because our government made it our business in 2003. Drunken Irishman Aug 2014 #2

You should be put in prison ... GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #19

I agree. We broke it, and we have a continuing duty to fix it. Laelth Aug 2014 #31

I'm not sure I'd call one guy 'some on the left'. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #3

It's far more than one guy ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #58

These short term military solutions only create long-term problems. rug Aug 2014 #4

Everything creates long-term problems... Drunken Irishman Aug 2014 #5

Everything creates long term effects. rug Aug 2014 #7

Well ISIS is obviously a problem... Drunken Irishman Aug 2014 #38

And what's the long term strategy? rug Aug 2014 #39

What's the long-term strategy in doing nothing? Drunken Irishman Aug 2014 #41

I imagine there's a lot of territory between those choices. rug Aug 2014 #42

I don't think there is... Drunken Irishman Aug 2014 #43

I think you're wrong. rug Aug 2014 #45

But it's also not to just ignore the Tasmanian devil's destruction. Drunken Irishman Aug 2014 #48

Which brings us back to the starting point. rug Aug 2014 #49

Well I guess only time will tell what possibly that long-term solution is. Drunken Irishman Aug 2014 #50

Given his access to information I'm sure he has one. rug Aug 2014 #51

It has been articulated ... multiple times. It is... YvonneCa Aug 2014 #65

It has been clearly and specifically articulated .. 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #59

That was the goal long before ISIS. rug Aug 2014 #60

Did you hear President Obama ' s comments of this morning? ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #61

No, I'll go look for it. rug Aug 2014 #64

It's pretty much what he has been say ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #69

I believe you were referring to his weekly address this morning. rug Aug 2014 #74

I think that the Soviet Union was a problem with or without WWII MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #16

A problem for who? rug Aug 2014 #32

Nonsense. Bombing Libya didn't create any problems. Chathamization Aug 2014 #11

If at first you don't succeed, bomb, bomb again...[n/t] Maedhros Aug 2014 #12

Don't say that too loud, John McCain might steal that one as his new tune davidpdx Aug 2014 #26

"I regret that I have just one bomb to drop for my country." [n/t] Maedhros Aug 2014 #68

They're not even pretending it's gonna be short-term. woo me with science Aug 2014 #55

That was a very misleading headline. I hope... YvonneCa Aug 2014 #66

Not misleading at all. It's a direct quote from Obama. woo me with science Aug 2014 #67

I stand by my statement. Context... YvonneCa Aug 2014 #73

Injury, meet Insult madamesilverspurs Aug 2014 #6

I said in '03, and I repeat today, the Iraq Attaq will one day tear this country apart . . . Journeyman Aug 2014 #8

indeed. Duppers Aug 2014 #18

Thanks, but as for me, babylonsister Aug 2014 #9

Well said. nt Andy823 Aug 2014 #36

because the far right and far left connect to complete the political circle snooper2 Aug 2014 #10

You Are Too Kind, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2014 #13

^^^Sadly true^^^ freshwest Aug 2014 #21

Now it's time to arm the Kurds: Hissyspit Aug 2014 #24

What The Magistrate said... nt MADem Aug 2014 #29

Feudalism with a modernized military quaker bill Aug 2014 #34

What is your argument (other than peachy which is your own flourish)? TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #53

I Have Simply Described A Position Some Have Maintained Here, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2014 #56

I am in extreme disagreement with your view. politicman Aug 2014 #78

I call bullshit on your post, it starts with the absurd acceptance of "moderate forces" TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #79

understand the dynamics of the religion and region politicman Aug 2014 #80

They have all the answers, don't they? LordGlenconner Aug 2014 #62

I'm kinda weird.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #14

McCain 'lobbyed' very hard for them. Sunlei Aug 2014 #44

Nobody even HEARD of them until after he met with them.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #46

McCain wanted the USA to fund them. Wonder what country/Corp. McCain got to fund them? Sunlei Aug 2014 #57

McCain was attracted to their leader because he was a rich guy.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #63

HEY!! those are OUR desert combat boots!! Sunlei Aug 2014 #71

Plenty of vests and Glocks though. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #72

Good OP. freshwest Aug 2014 #15

I may change my mind about ISIS as more evidence comes out but at this point I beleive they Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #17

K&R Jamaal510 Aug 2014 #20

Thanks. Your idea that "nothing is working" needs to be addressed more. I think many here have ancianita Aug 2014 #22

i basically agree with you i think, but barbtries Aug 2014 #23

"Without sending us to war" Hissyspit Aug 2014 #25

I agree with what you are saying, but still agree with what the OP has said davidpdx Aug 2014 #27

War is Peace! woo me with science Aug 2014 #70

Supporting the Syrian rebels CJCRANE Aug 2014 #28

The left is going to scream no matter what Obama does davidpdx Aug 2014 #30

Since you're not screaming, may it be assumed you're not on the left? rug Aug 2014 #33

I'm not screaming because I don't over react like some on DU davidpdx Aug 2014 #35

McCain commited treason to fund ISIS Multichromatic Aug 2014 #37

Thanks for the links! octoberlib Aug 2014 #75

ODS has gone airborne. msanthrope Aug 2014 #40

its the worst thing hes ever done. JoePhilly Aug 2014 #52

Thank Jeebus he didn't use the word "folks." There might have been a riot. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #54

Not counting taking a vaction and being black. FSogol Aug 2014 #76

Ah-choo! Iggo Aug 2014 #47

It only makes sense that SummerSnow Aug 2014 #77