So, just so I got this straight...

[TheKentuckian]

53. What is your argument (other than peachy which is your own flourish)?

I'd also for my part quibble with the "create" section, the seeds were already in the ground but yes better Assad than these monsters (just as it was better Hussein than anything since) we were just and in some quarters are pretending are "moderate" whatever that means anymore in any situation.

There is no way that toppling Assad would increase regional stability and I honestly believe it was just not a consideration in what our people stupidly saw as a separate situation. We were and still apparently are all about separating Russia from control of that seaport and these idiots thought they could play on one side of the imaginary line and it wouldn't even relate to the other side. It is pretty much that or a willful machinations to continue neocon agenda in the area.

What the hell is the alternative outcome here? How much worse would matters be now if Assad had fallen, the fucking jihad would REALLY be balling out of control.

No shit we fostered these jackals and at minimum took pressure off a front in their confederacy's wider war. I see no basis to deny it, it is what it is, the divisions we trick ourselves into don't exist in these folk's minds except as something to be erased.

There is no path to peachy and not many (none of that we are willing to take for a number of reasons anyway) to even contained, I'm not the one who can't remember that.