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In reply to the discussion: Question for the experts at DU [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)30. CBS reported Weinberger ordered SAC on Alert...
The Day Reagan Was Shot
Fears Of A Soviet Plot
CBS, April 23, 2001
EXCERPT...
Haig was wrong to say constitutionally. The constitution mentions the secretary of state only in an actual transfer of power and then it places him fourth in line.
I wasnt talking about transition, Haig says now. I was talking about the executive branch, who is running the government. That was the question asked. It was not, who is in line should the President die?
Haig says he knew the order of succession better than anyone. In 1974 he was chief-of-staff when Nixon resigned. Haig insists the briefing room appearance was meant to reassure the world and ease the pressure on the nuclear trigger.
There are absolutely no alert measures that are necessary at this time or contemplated, Haig told reporters.
But in the Situation Room, they were making a liar out of Haig. Defense Secretary Cap Weinberger was ordering an alert. American pilots were, at that moment, climbing into their nuclear bombers. Weinberger wanted to save time if this was all part of a Soviet plot.
It's based on the idea that until we know a little bit more about it, its better to be in the plane than which saves three and a half to four minutes than it is to stay in their quarters, Weinberger said in the Situation Room.
I said up there, Cap, I am not a liar. I said there had been no increased alert, Haig responded.
Well, I didnt know you were going up Al, Weinberger said.
Weinberger then told the room he was calling the shots for the military.
Youd better read the constitution, Haig said to him. We can get the vice president any time we want.
But the men in the situation room couldnt make the decision to launch the nuclear weapons without secret codes that are kept in a case called the football - usually at the presidents side.
I had the football brought to me and I held it in my hand, it was under my sheaf of papers and stayed right there all afternoon, Allen says now. It didnt pass into the hands of anyone ese.
It didnt make him feel safe, he says now: Theres no security in holding a document like that in your hand. But in the interest of prudence, you wanted to have everything there that you might need in the worst case.
In time. it became clear the gunman was a deranged loner. Mr. Reagan and the others would all survive. Four hours after the first shots, the vice president arrived and shut down the situation room.
Allens tapes have been in a drawer all these years and surfaced now to the surprise and annoyance of some who were there.
CONTINUED...
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-day-reagan-was-shot/
PS: Thanks for the heads-up, Ichingcarpenter. That article has tons of stuff to digest -- missed by Corporate McPravda and McAkademia.
Fears Of A Soviet Plot
CBS, April 23, 2001
EXCERPT...
Haig was wrong to say constitutionally. The constitution mentions the secretary of state only in an actual transfer of power and then it places him fourth in line.
I wasnt talking about transition, Haig says now. I was talking about the executive branch, who is running the government. That was the question asked. It was not, who is in line should the President die?
Haig says he knew the order of succession better than anyone. In 1974 he was chief-of-staff when Nixon resigned. Haig insists the briefing room appearance was meant to reassure the world and ease the pressure on the nuclear trigger.
There are absolutely no alert measures that are necessary at this time or contemplated, Haig told reporters.
But in the Situation Room, they were making a liar out of Haig. Defense Secretary Cap Weinberger was ordering an alert. American pilots were, at that moment, climbing into their nuclear bombers. Weinberger wanted to save time if this was all part of a Soviet plot.
It's based on the idea that until we know a little bit more about it, its better to be in the plane than which saves three and a half to four minutes than it is to stay in their quarters, Weinberger said in the Situation Room.
I said up there, Cap, I am not a liar. I said there had been no increased alert, Haig responded.
Well, I didnt know you were going up Al, Weinberger said.
Weinberger then told the room he was calling the shots for the military.
Youd better read the constitution, Haig said to him. We can get the vice president any time we want.
But the men in the situation room couldnt make the decision to launch the nuclear weapons without secret codes that are kept in a case called the football - usually at the presidents side.
I had the football brought to me and I held it in my hand, it was under my sheaf of papers and stayed right there all afternoon, Allen says now. It didnt pass into the hands of anyone ese.
It didnt make him feel safe, he says now: Theres no security in holding a document like that in your hand. But in the interest of prudence, you wanted to have everything there that you might need in the worst case.
In time. it became clear the gunman was a deranged loner. Mr. Reagan and the others would all survive. Four hours after the first shots, the vice president arrived and shut down the situation room.
Allens tapes have been in a drawer all these years and surfaced now to the surprise and annoyance of some who were there.
CONTINUED...
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-day-reagan-was-shot/
PS: Thanks for the heads-up, Ichingcarpenter. That article has tons of stuff to digest -- missed by Corporate McPravda and McAkademia.
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Poppy Bush told FBI that's where he was and reported treasonous ''hearsay'' AFTER the fact.
Octafish
Aug 2014
#46
Bush ran against Reagan in primary as TPTB chosen one. Reagan was always in the way.
blm
Aug 2014
#18
That's interesting, I don't remember this factoid. Who did Reagan want for VP, I wonder?
2banon
Aug 2014
#48
There's been a lot written about it over the years. This is same incident that Alexander Haig
tritsofme
Aug 2014
#5
Conveniently out of town. Remember Sec State Haig, ''I'm in control here'' from the White House
Octafish
Aug 2014
#22
I need to ask one of those stupid questions: What does BFEE stand for. I know who it stands for
jwirr
Aug 2014
#37
I had the bush family figured out but did not know the ee. Thank you. Made me smile before I hit
jwirr
Aug 2014
#43
Is that another way of saying that you were not presented with these facts?
MrMickeysMom
Aug 2014
#40