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43. Your criticism is missing a few facts. He's not using troops to sort out any Iraqi problems

Sat Aug 9, 2014, 08:42 PM

Aug 2014

He's protecting Kudish civilians who are forced to flea to avoid being murdered by ISIS. He's also sending them food and water so they can survive.

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Some people warned of this "mess"... [View all] kentuck Aug 2014 OP

i suspect this will be the neocon bullshit all over the sunday morning snooze shows spanone Aug 2014 #1

You won't have to wait until Sunday to hear onecaliberal Aug 2014 #2

If he had prosecuted them instead of actually thinking that 'moving forward' would bring sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #63

And that's the truth. Louisiana1976 Aug 2014 #77

My guess is they will support the air strikes but say it's too little too late, we need more. grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #52

Is there a good reason why we don't just get our people out of Irbil, if they're so endangered? another_liberal Aug 2014 #61

What I'd like to see is a map of refugees, force structures, air strikes and oil fields. grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #70

This might interest you . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #73

It's a bipartisan mess CJCRANE Aug 2014 #3

i find it hard to argue with conservatives after Obamas latest moves.. politicman Aug 2014 #4

I still think that's framing it in the Bush vs Obama way: CJCRANE Aug 2014 #5

No, if it was the same policy we would have invaded Iran by now. nt cstanleytech Aug 2014 #58

"...why not disregard what the Iraqi government wanted"..? kentuck Aug 2014 #6

its a legitimate question they ask that needs to have a proper answer.. politicman Aug 2014 #11

"should not have listened to the Iraqi government.." kentuck Aug 2014 #13

Your analysis is flawed... ljm2002 Aug 2014 #16

I am not arguing that Obama deserves initial blame for this mess, I am arguing that by Obama.. politicman Aug 2014 #41

Your assumption seems to be that this is all being done for Maliki and the Baghdad government? kentuck Aug 2014 #42

you said it yoruself.. politicman Aug 2014 #48

Bush had made the deal with the Iraqi government to leave. shraby Aug 2014 #8

still doesnt change the valiidity of their question after Obamas latest moves.. politicman Aug 2014 #12

It matters very much "who made it"-- truebluegreen Aug 2014 #32

Your criticism is missing a few facts. He's not using troops to sort out any Iraqi problems lunatica Aug 2014 #43

it always starts like that, doesnt it? politicman Aug 2014 #46

It's never simple. Never lunatica Aug 2014 #64

Is there any way to do this triage with the United Nations running it? tavalon Aug 2014 #68

To change the course of historical dots created by war lunatica Aug 2014 #72

We are in a time where a goodly portion of our constitution tavalon Aug 2014 #84

Agree wholeheartedly. Louisiana1976 Aug 2014 #78

Anytime someone starts with a I'm as _________ as they come... trumad Aug 2014 #54

I tend to think the O Administration is playing this one right. mark67 Aug 2014 #56

I still remember when the Bush-bots kept repeating that they had the moral Baitball Blogger Aug 2014 #7

Shouldn't have been there. And shouldn't have left Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #9

So we should stay forever? truebluegreen Aug 2014 #33

Drama much Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #35

How long then? truebluegreen Aug 2014 #37

He won't answer.... trumad Aug 2014 #55

Yeah, I know...since he can't. truebluegreen Aug 2014 #60

Believe it or not Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #81

A sovereign nation? Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #82

Silly. truebluegreen Aug 2014 #83

Yes Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #85

Um, no. truebluegreen Aug 2014 #86

Yes, let someone else do it. Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #87

"Let someone else do it who CAN." truebluegreen Aug 2014 #88

You mean like now Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #90

... kentuck Aug 2014 #10

"Distorted Reality. " littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #24

We knew. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #65

The United States has made and is making a mess of this world. Iggo Aug 2014 #14

But remember we are not to look back. zeemike Aug 2014 #15

Yep, we told you so. Brigid Aug 2014 #17

The Right doesn't understand what went wrong.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #18

Spot on analysis. kairos12 Aug 2014 #22

Agree. nt littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #25

That is the formula. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #66

bingo Botany Aug 2014 #19

+1000 kairos12 Aug 2014 #23

No accountability. I can point my finger at Obama for that. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2014 #20

No accountability but he does not respond by calling out the BS. nt bonniebgood Aug 2014 #21

You are so right. I truly wish he would chew them out. littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #26

I agree so much! Often, I wish he would get angry it tell them all to F off. It's RKP5637 Aug 2014 #28

Sweet Madonna of Jesus... littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #30

He also might be fed up with the job! ... schlepping along with the short timers disease. RKP5637 Aug 2014 #31

Thank you. nt littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #34

The gifts from Bush, that just keep giving ... and the MIC is licking its RKP5637 Aug 2014 #27

The MIC and MSM are fucking evil....they invite the same bastards on for free air time constantly. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #69

Yep, they roll them out on MSM, all in the cue and ready to go. An advertisement, RKP5637 Aug 2014 #71

Exactly. Louisiana1976 Aug 2014 #80

Notice how Cheney & co. Came out of the woodwork to insist we help ISIS in Syria? Now we know why. grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #74

Halliburton would like another helping of $$$$$. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2014 #76

Yep - Don't Expect The ChickenHawks To Acknowledge The Fact cantbeserious Aug 2014 #29

Spot on madokie Aug 2014 #36

Thanks Kentuck k&r n/t lordsummerisle Aug 2014 #38

While it is Bush's fault, Obama left a power vacuum when he pulled all the troops out... riseabove Aug 2014 #39

Troll much? Botany Aug 2014 #40

Ohhhh, power vacuum! We pulled out troops out in 2011. FSogol Aug 2014 #45

No he didnt leave any vacuum but the ones that were left in power handled in a hamfisted manner cstanleytech Aug 2014 #59

There is no foreseeable such time, this was automatic when way more than will admit it now TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #62

And who would pay for the endless occupation, do tell? grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #75

Jon Stewart got it right when he labeled it Cleita Aug 2014 #44

Amen Brother!!! Phlem Aug 2014 #47

Problem is we broke shit and now we either fix it or buy it.. Historic NY Aug 2014 #49

Bravo, kentuck, for telling it like it is indepat Aug 2014 #50

Killing people is never the answer... humbled_opinion Aug 2014 #51

Very well put! n/t cntrygrl Aug 2014 #53

Chicken hawks: old men who send young men and women off to fight in wars to protect their corporate kelliekat44 Aug 2014 #57

Yes, we knew. And no one of any account listened tavalon Aug 2014 #67

''Money trumps peace.'' -- George W Bush, White House press conference, 14 Feb 2007 Octafish Aug 2014 #79

AMEN. calimary Aug 2014 #89