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randys1

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152. He is doing it on purpose to respond to the driver who is yelling at him, it is negligence and

Reply to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #102)

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 10:28 PM

Aug 2014

manslaughter, 2nd degree

doesnt have to be intent

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Tony Stewart Runs Over Driver During Confrontation, Killing Him [View all] madokie Aug 2014 OP

Stewart appears to accelerate exboyfil Aug 2014 #1

You mean using cars agressively BainsBane Aug 2014 #108

I am not saying what should happen exboyfil Aug 2014 #132

The victim was a fool, clearly BainsBane Aug 2014 #134

Subject to interpretation exboyfil Aug 2014 #162

Those are some lame looking cars too BainsBane Aug 2014 #135

They are Sprint cars exboyfil Aug 2014 #161

I just saw the video yeoman6987 Aug 2014 #151

I don't know about poor Tony Stewart exboyfil Aug 2014 #164

lol,that was funny as hell BootinUp Aug 2014 #176

Stewart did not run over him. Are_grits_groceries Aug 2014 #2

I didn't see that in the video I watched... HereSince1628 Aug 2014 #7

He murded him, guess he can play with matchbox cars in prison snooper2 Aug 2014 #43

he murdered him? qazplm Aug 2014 #58

thank you. confronting speeding car on foot = you lose. sad. out of control temper tantrums kill. elehhhhna Aug 2014 #60

Initially the asshole decided to still race today. Wow, bad PR move. Luckily for him his handlers... Logical Aug 2014 #122

No. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #157

This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger Aug 2014 #3

Why was he walking into the middle of a track of speeding race cars? PowerToThePeople Aug 2014 #4

anger of the moment overtook better judgement, I suppose eShirl Aug 2014 #5

I thought that too treestar Aug 2014 #35

Yeah, that's the takeaway for me, to be honest. closeupready Aug 2014 #48

Drivers do that other times. People don't run over them. n-t Logical Aug 2014 #123

Stupid is as stupid does. Get out of your car in the middle of a car race, closeupready Aug 2014 #127

Really? Need some videos where they don't get killed? nt Logical Aug 2014 #128

My reaction, too. Fawke Em Aug 2014 #68

He stabbed the throttle. Tires break loose, he hits man. DiverDave Aug 2014 #6

I agree with that madokie Aug 2014 #9

'According to the sheriff, no charges are pending'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #51

At this point in time they have to say that madokie Aug 2014 #85

If the incident occurred as described Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #87

At the very least madokie Aug 2014 #91

The dead guys behaviour is common in this situation, they all do it on this type of track randys1 Aug 2014 #88

I see a poster or two repeatedly saying Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #102

He is doing it on purpose to respond to the driver who is yelling at him, it is negligence and randys1 Aug 2014 #152

Time to vote that jerk out 4b5f940728b232b034e4 Aug 2014 #111

Reporter on NASCAR website exboyfil Aug 2014 #45

NASCAR has no jurisdiction. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #59

I would think that they could exboyfil Aug 2014 #70

No, they won't penalize him for a racing incident under another sanctioning body. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #72

Maybe not this incident exboyfil Aug 2014 #97

Sprint cars are steered via the throttle. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2014 #170

Making a stupid move that kills someone would normally get you a manslaughter charge. brewens Aug 2014 #177

Drivers who witnessed say it was an accident.... trumad Aug 2014 #8

So, since I'm not a driver on the scene DiverDave Aug 2014 #10

You can think whatever you want... trumad Aug 2014 #11

You have a point, however safeinOhio Aug 2014 #14

So who wears... daleanime Aug 2014 #52

And eyewitnesses are never wrong. phil89 Aug 2014 #57

You obviously don't know squat about sprint cars. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #63

In the video its pretty obvious that he blipped the throttle madokie Aug 2014 #12

Well---again... trumad Aug 2014 #13

Of course they are madokie Aug 2014 #16

Yep, from all the video evidence, looks like manslaughter. eom MohRokTah Aug 2014 #24

Total accident yeoman6987 Aug 2014 #121

So in your world "due process" means "decision without trial"? jberryhill Aug 2014 #90

Did I say that madokie Aug 2014 #138

Um, I wasn't replying to you jberryhill Aug 2014 #149

My bad madokie Aug 2014 #167

Those saying.. sendero Aug 2014 #140

Sure it is madokie Aug 2014 #141

I meant.. sendero Aug 2014 #143

I knew that, I was just reiterating what I have already said madokie Aug 2014 #144

That would be the police, and other drivers... HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #153

Just like.. sendero Aug 2014 #159

Mechanics of driving Sprint cars. Calista241 Aug 2014 #137

man, lets just let the superstar off. DiverDave Aug 2014 #146

he wont be touched backwoodsbob Aug 2014 #168

That's not at all obvious. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2014 #172

Fully agree. n/t lumberjack_jeff Aug 2014 #171

Every eyewitness in the stands say otherwise. JaneyVee Aug 2014 #15

You can see for yourself that he gunned the engine madokie Aug 2014 #17

You don't know what you're talking about. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #154

A jury is going to be shown the video. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #22

And drivers would never, ever lie to protect one of their own n/t n2doc Aug 2014 #34

Why wouldn't they protect Stewart, then? closeupready Aug 2014 #49

Drivers generally don't like drivers who kill other drivers on the track. JVS Aug 2014 #54

There doesn't have to be intent or purpose to commit a crime. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #92

negligence is getting out of your car and walking towards the racing line frylock Aug 2014 #145

"I'm Tony Stewart, dickhead... and you're not. So back the FUCK up." cherokeeprogressive Aug 2014 #105

Yup. That's what it seems like to me. DanTex Aug 2014 #107

Ward walked into the middle of the track with fast oncoming cars heading his way. trumad Aug 2014 #109

Actually the cars had slowed down considerably by the time he got to the point of impact madokie Aug 2014 #113

Bank on it. trumad Aug 2014 #115

We will see won't we madokie Aug 2014 #116

Why would his career be over? trumad Aug 2014 #117

I predict you're both right. Stewart will get no criminal charges & no sponsors behind him to race. TeamPooka Aug 2014 #169

+1000. And this particular "keyboard warrior" actually attended the first two bullwinkle428 Aug 2014 #163

Of course they did. Stewart could ruin them. nt Logical Aug 2014 #124

Trumad is right. Now I need a shower. n/t lumberjack_jeff Aug 2014 #173

Need info...Questions.. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #18

Thank you trumad Aug 2014 #19

Thank you for the Thank You but why? Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #20

Debating folks here that seem to immediately have jumped to a conclusion trumad Aug 2014 #21

From what I can see.. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #25

You're basing what you say on what the drivers are saying, or so you say madokie Aug 2014 #26

A charge isn't a "conclusion" jberryhill Aug 2014 #31

And there is definitely a reason for questioning in this case madokie Aug 2014 #32

The distance Stewart's car travelled after hitting Ward is incriminating. greyl Aug 2014 #166

Answers MohRokTah Aug 2014 #23

Interesting. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #27

Looks that way to me too madokie Aug 2014 #30

Hitting the throttle sounds exactly like down shifting. ieoeja Aug 2014 #165

See post #154 lumberjack_jeff Aug 2014 #175

Per ESPN Radio tthis morning: as af 9 AM Eastern, Stewart still intends to race today Algernon Moncrieff Aug 2014 #28

As of 10am hes NOT driving today. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #66

NASCAR is the governing body of today's race Algernon Moncrieff Aug 2014 #131

No, the decision was Stewart's. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #133

I suspect that Stewart won't be racing anytime soon madokie Aug 2014 #136

Well, the decision to resume racing will be Stewart's. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #158

how absolutely horrible bigtree Aug 2014 #29

What a terrible situation. 99Forever Aug 2014 #33

If 'heat of the moment racing incidents' are 'VERY common' Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #95

You obviously have no idea of what it is you speak of. 99Forever Aug 2014 #147

Tony Stewart had better retain a criminal attorney. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #36

He won't need one. See my post. Lochloosa Aug 2014 #38

I have raced sprint cars. The first thing they teach you is to stay in your car Lochloosa Aug 2014 #37

Now that is some 1st hand knowledge/viewpoint. maced666 Aug 2014 #39

I thought the first thing they teach you is... Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #41

Well that goes without saying. Lochloosa Aug 2014 #42

Anyone who needs to be taught that is beyond instruction JVS Aug 2014 #56

So do they teach you when you are under a yellow flag and another racer is on the track screaming snooper2 Aug 2014 #44

Maybe you should look at the video again. Those card are going fast. Lochloosa Aug 2014 #89

The driver was wrong in exiting the car and exboyfil Aug 2014 #47

He may have throttled up to avoid collision. At least that's what the guy who hit me said. freshwest Aug 2014 #96

Apart from accelerating under a yellow flag, that is. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #73

You can accelerate under yellow flag. EX500rider Aug 2014 #84

Is there a specific rule that mandates that? AngryOldDem Aug 2014 #77

I'm not aware of a specific rule but in drivers meetings they cover it Lochloosa Aug 2014 #94

Yeah, but you know what they say about common sense. AngryOldDem Aug 2014 #114

I thought there was SwankyXomb Aug 2014 #120

Ugly shit. Don't know the outcome legally... Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #40

NASCAR has absolutely no jurisdiction. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #65

I read some bad info on another site regarding this event. Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #74

Poor lighting, and the driver was wearing black suit, black helmet. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #81

Hope he likes prison TransitJohn Aug 2014 #46

<rolleyes> HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #67

he gunned his engine as he passed the guy TransitJohn Aug 2014 #79

You obviously know nothing about sprint cars. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #83

I watched the video Bobbie Jo Aug 2014 #50

Fish tailed to hit Ward? doxydad Aug 2014 #53

I doubt Stewart even saw PumpkinAle Aug 2014 #55

Yellow flag means that you go slow enough to react to dangerous conditions. Coventina Aug 2014 #61

Holy shit! Cali_Democrat Aug 2014 #62

Well, Tony is a hothead, but I doubt his intention was to kill this guy, Baclava Aug 2014 #64

I agree. #45 almost hit him before Stewart did. It could have easily been one of Skeeter Barnes Aug 2014 #69

Right now I don't think it was intentional, either. Just too many unanswered questions. AngryOldDem Aug 2014 #76

It first appears that Tony Stewart ran Kevin Ward Jr into the wall cpwm17 Aug 2014 #71

What is "blipped the throttle"? Ruby the Liberal Aug 2014 #75

A quick open and close of the throttle. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #80

Wow - thanks for the explanation Ruby the Liberal Aug 2014 #82

"And why was that dude running into the middle of the track? Is that common after a wreck?" EX500rider Aug 2014 #86

Looked like he committed suicide because he had a bad temper. B Calm Aug 2014 #93

Pure speculation on my part, but I just don't know the drivers intentions. Rex Aug 2014 #78

And the Darwin Award goes to Ward WhaTHellsgoingonhere Aug 2014 #98

Seriously, I cannot believe he got out of his car and walked to the middle of the track Rex Aug 2014 #100

It would be like getting out of your car on a freeway. trumad Aug 2014 #101

Yes!! Rex Aug 2014 #104

No it wouldn't madokie Aug 2014 #142

He was hit by a car going as fast as the other cars, so no I think it is a good comparison. Rex Aug 2014 #174

I don't think Stewart hit the throttle teach1st Aug 2014 #99

Tragic accident that never, ever should have happened. NuclearDem Aug 2014 #103

Pro tip: don't run into the middle of a live racetrack and try to stop a racecar with your finger. WilliamPitt Aug 2014 #106

Hell yeah its a bad idea. trumad Aug 2014 #110

Why would you get out of your car and step into traffic? liberal N proud Aug 2014 #112

If nothing else, I hope this spurs a bunch of MAJOR rule changes Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #118

"it adds some kind of pro wrestling-style "spice" that the fans love" JVS Aug 2014 #150

This shit is part of racing and all have a good laugh... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Aug 2014 #119

Another reminder why I will never be fan of that nonsense. Dawson Leery Aug 2014 #125

Looks to be intentionally hit. Owl Aug 2014 #126

Oh, horseshit. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #130

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #129

How do people watch racing Politicalboi Aug 2014 #139

With that type of race and car, I doubt there are onboard cameras like with Indy Car & NASCAR AngryOldDem Aug 2014 #148

Not TV cameras. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #155

Thanks -- didn't know that. AngryOldDem Aug 2014 #160

I have heard others joking about someone going to play in the traffic but it Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #156