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Skidmore

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15. Rand Paul is not an option for me to even consider.

Mon Aug 11, 2014, 07:07 AM

Aug 2014

I think he is despicable, and for all of his posturing, I do not think he has anything to offer women or minorities. I don't consider him to be anything more than an opportunist. However, I do agree that Dems need to be stepping up with a different message than more war. We also need to be embracing full throated populism. Personally, I believe that Bush and Cheney seeded the government very deeply with neocons sympathizers. I do think they still pull strings. They are deeply entrenched.

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My take on Hillary Clinton's motives in breaking with Obama on foreign policy [View all] karynnj Aug 2014 OP

i think she really is more hawkish JI7 Aug 2014 #1

+1 jaysunb Aug 2014 #2

I think that was huge rufus dog Aug 2014 #63

I think so too - and that seemed to be the case in Afghanistan karynnj Aug 2014 #5

+1 davidpdx Aug 2014 #12

I think she truly believes in American Exceptionalism. joshcryer Aug 2014 #18

She is more big business and big bank, at least she and Bill were in Arkansas LiberalArkie Aug 2014 #33

Except her voting record is not on corporations first, more for the consumer. Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #34

Hillary is a war hawk. And that's something that won't ever change. blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #3

Same as every other politician with no skin in the game. Ikonoklast Aug 2014 #26

Either 1 or 2 she's wrong for the country. My guess more sell out less principle on point Aug 2014 #4

It's one and two. And here's three: she's totally shallow on foreign policy, she spent TwilightGardener Aug 2014 #6

Bingo! nt Euphoria Aug 2014 #30

she will out-republican obama lol nt msongs Aug 2014 #7

she was a "Goldwater Girl" back in the day pleinair Aug 2014 #28

She was too young to vote for Goldwater. She campaigned for McCarthy in 1968, Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #36

She campaigned for Rockefeller in 1968. She worked at the Republican National Convention that year. ieoeja Aug 2014 #51

She did in fact change in 1968 from GOP to liberal democrat. Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #52

She volunteered for Goldwater although she was too young to vote. Jim Lane Aug 2014 #53

She was raised in a GOP home but has campaigned for Democrats since voting age. Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #55

She approached 2008 as if she "deserved" the nomination JayhawkSD Aug 2014 #8

Both her and her supporters davidpdx Aug 2014 #13

Good point. n/t JayhawkSD Aug 2014 #41

Where is this Hillary crowd you speak of? LordGlenconner Aug 2014 #57

I guess you should take a look at more than the few threads you have admitted to checking davidpdx Aug 2014 #59

I have LordGlenconner Aug 2014 #60

I never said that she hasn't been criticized davidpdx Aug 2014 #61

If you say so LordGlenconner Aug 2014 #65

She was SOS so she will run on foreign policy. CJCRANE Aug 2014 #9

She has to prove she has bigger balls than any man and by god, given the chance, she will do it. CBGLuthier Aug 2014 #10

Frankly, I think there is the idea out there that Skidmore Aug 2014 #11

We have also seen some big foreign policy blunders or reversals CJCRANE Aug 2014 #14

Rand Paul is not an option for me to even consider. Skidmore Aug 2014 #15

I agree on all points. CJCRANE Aug 2014 #16

The MSM wants a horse race. joshcryer Aug 2014 #17

Is America ready for more interventionism? CJCRANE Aug 2014 #19

Things are stable domestically. joshcryer Aug 2014 #24

But the impression was CJCRANE Aug 2014 #31

Who cares if Clinton picks some "moderate liberal"? The person would be a powerless token TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #35

People who set their sights to 2024? joshcryer Aug 2014 #37

The vice Presidency is no springboard to the big chair save via death, 2024 is not even TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #38

That view is not in line with reasonable reality. joshcryer Aug 2014 #43

Ok, fine what about the other 99.90% of issues the court reviews? TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #47

It's because she's so weak on domestic policy/economics. She *needs* the election to be about Romulox Aug 2014 #20

IMO she is a politician and will do/say what is necessary, remember "Landing under fire?" HereSince1628 Aug 2014 #21

She wants a Republican Senate as well as House, mmonk Aug 2014 #22

I wonder how many people commenting on her "breaking from Obama DURHAM D Aug 2014 #23

True, but there are ways to do that that do not reduce to karynnj Aug 2014 #44

$$$Campaign Donations From Certain Sources$$$ Ikonoklast Aug 2014 #25

I don't think it will matter all that much in a primary, for two reasons Unvanguard Aug 2014 #27

If so, why no wait until after November 2014? karynnj Aug 2014 #45

I don't think it will have much impact on the midterms. Unvanguard Aug 2014 #67

Once the dust settles in Iraq--as if-- randr Aug 2014 #29

Whatever the case, and I think you summed it up well BeyondGeography Aug 2014 #32

As SOS it was her responsibility to do Obama's agenda on foreign policy. Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #39

It's both #1 AND #2 ... sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #40

How about the President has told her Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #42

The President has, if anything, favored her over Joe Biden and everyone else karynnj Aug 2014 #46

I would really like to hear Michelle's thoughts on Hillary JaydenD Aug 2014 #64

She's more hawkish and PAProgressive28 Aug 2014 #48

she wanted to "obliterate Iran" magical thyme Aug 2014 #49

"Since she left office"? Obama had to walk back her statements on more than one occasion. ieoeja Aug 2014 #50

+1 n/t MBS Aug 2014 #56

The Honduras coup - the world, including Obama, denounced it JaydenD Aug 2014 #62

I agree, and would add one more thing MBS Aug 2014 #54

She's just showing her Faux pas Aug 2014 #58

Hillary believes she doesn't have a 'likability problem' any more? Dems to Win Aug 2014 #66

This interview does move her "likability" in the wrong direction karynnj Aug 2014 #68