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Spider Jerusalem

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19. "Israel's progressive nature on social issues"?
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 07:31 AM
Aug 2014

It's fundamentally dishonest to compare Israel to other non-progressive Middle Eastern nations. The actual point of comparison for Israel, as a self-proclaimed, Western-style liberal democracy, is other Western liberal democracies. On that score? it fares quite poorly.

Israel is, very possibly, the most racist country in the developed world. This doesn't come as much of a surprise when one considers that Israel alone among Western democracies is founded on the basis of a specifically ethnic nationalism. I invite you to imagine, if you would, what would happen if the director of the OMB or another relevant US Federal agency stood up in a press conference to announce that cuts to child welfare benefits had been successful, because they saw a reduction in the black, or Hispanic, birthrate. What do you think the reaction would be, in the US? There'd be an outcry, no? Yet that's precisely what Netanhayu boasted about, only with Arabs as the relevant minority, when Likud were in opposition. And what do you think would happen if a significant number of evangelical Christian leaders in the USA stood up and said that Americans should refuse to rent houses or apartments to Hispanics? Do you think that a poll would show that over half the public agreed with them? Because that's what happened in Israel when a group of rabbis called for a ban on renting to Arabs. How would you feel about a government-sponsored advertising campaign in the USA designed to discourage people from marrying outside their religious or ethnic group? Because Israel had those, too, until people got offended.

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Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #1
It's simply exploitation of one group to justify violence against another Scootaloo Aug 2014 #2
"...Colonel Eyal Qarim of the Military Rabbinate.. Segami Aug 2014 #3
Excellent article, thank you. It nails a growing problem that needs to be exposed, and that is the sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #4
Divide and Rule malaise Aug 2014 #18
Thank you for getting the truth out Laughing Mirror Aug 2014 #5
Disgusting divisive crap. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #6
You're missing the point. Ken Burch Aug 2014 #7
How do you retain the right to make such a claim? Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #8
No strawman. Ken Burch Aug 2014 #9
Yes, it is a strawman. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #10
Anytime some group is oppressed, it is an issue to people who fight oppression. Ken Burch Aug 2014 #11
There is a difference which seems you don't understand. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #12
Why are you laughing at that first point? Ken Burch Aug 2014 #13
You don't get it? Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #14
"Pinkwashing" is almost exclusively used to refer to Israel. joshcryer Aug 2014 #17
It is actually quite relevant to the I/P issue. joshcryer Aug 2014 #16
"Israel's progressive nature on social issues"? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #19
There is no comparison being made. joshcryer Aug 2014 #20
And? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #21
I do think it matters. joshcryer Aug 2014 #23
I don't know, I rather suspect... Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #25
That's absurd. joshcryer Aug 2014 #30
I'm not talking about Palestinian refugees, whatever their status or the legitimacy of their claims. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #31
They are almost certainly Palestinian "refugees." joshcryer Aug 2014 #32
You seem to be very confused. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #33
Read the self-identification at the citation. joshcryer Aug 2014 #34
You're still very confused. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #35
You're right, a little confused. joshcryer Aug 2014 #36
Okay, you're not confused, you're an idiot. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #41
Speaking of marriage... DanTex Aug 2014 #38
Can you imagine passing a law saying Native Americans can't leave their reservation? joshcryer Aug 2014 #39
Yeah, but nobody's talk about bout how progressive a nation that Syria is. DanTex Aug 2014 #40
what a steaming pile m-lekktor Aug 2014 #22
"the only people with rights in right wing, racist Israel are Jews." oberliner Aug 2014 #26
k nr Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #15
one of the best pieces of i have seen on pinkwashing! m-lekktor Aug 2014 #24
"Israel truly is disgusting" oberliner Aug 2014 #27
I wonder if anyone in this thread knows any Palestinian gay people personally, any Israeli gay Bluenorthwest Aug 2014 #28
Thank you for posing this message oberliner Aug 2014 #37
Plenty of pinkwashing happening on DU too Capt. Obvious Aug 2014 #29
K&R!!! mwrguy Aug 2014 #42
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