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joshcryer

(62,536 posts)
24. Things are stable domestically.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 08:35 AM
Aug 2014

That wasn't the case in 2008 or even arguably in 2012. They're not fantastic domestically, mind you, but they're stable. So what else big policy issues can the MSM make into some sort of agenda setting?

All Clinton has to do is pick a moderately liberal candidate like Julien Castro and then liberals will swallow the pill.

Obama hasn't wound anything down, really, he increased the drone wars exponentially, but they do sell well to the American public, admittedly. The military budget is only reduced due to the sequester and due to leaving Iraq and Afghanistan, otherwise it's larger than the next 13 countries' budgets combined.

The problem with anti-war democrats is that pretty much every damn district has a military base or something related to military in it. Or at least districts that matter. MIC is everywhere.

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i think she really is more hawkish JI7 Aug 2014 #1
+1 jaysunb Aug 2014 #2
I think that was huge rufus dog Aug 2014 #63
I think so too - and that seemed to be the case in Afghanistan karynnj Aug 2014 #5
+1 davidpdx Aug 2014 #12
I think she truly believes in American Exceptionalism. joshcryer Aug 2014 #18
She is more big business and big bank, at least she and Bill were in Arkansas LiberalArkie Aug 2014 #33
Except her voting record is not on corporations first, more for the consumer. Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #34
Hillary is a war hawk. And that's something that won't ever change. blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #3
Same as every other politician with no skin in the game. Ikonoklast Aug 2014 #26
Either 1 or 2 she's wrong for the country. My guess more sell out less principle on point Aug 2014 #4
It's one and two. And here's three: she's totally shallow on foreign policy, she spent TwilightGardener Aug 2014 #6
Bingo! nt Euphoria Aug 2014 #30
she will out-republican obama lol nt msongs Aug 2014 #7
she was a "Goldwater Girl" back in the day pleinair Aug 2014 #28
She was too young to vote for Goldwater. She campaigned for McCarthy in 1968, Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #36
She campaigned for Rockefeller in 1968. She worked at the Republican National Convention that year. ieoeja Aug 2014 #51
She did in fact change in 1968 from GOP to liberal democrat. Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #52
She volunteered for Goldwater although she was too young to vote. Jim Lane Aug 2014 #53
She was raised in a GOP home but has campaigned for Democrats since voting age. Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #55
She approached 2008 as if she "deserved" the nomination JayhawkSD Aug 2014 #8
Both her and her supporters davidpdx Aug 2014 #13
Good point. n/t JayhawkSD Aug 2014 #41
Where is this Hillary crowd you speak of? LordGlenconner Aug 2014 #57
I guess you should take a look at more than the few threads you have admitted to checking davidpdx Aug 2014 #59
I have LordGlenconner Aug 2014 #60
I never said that she hasn't been criticized davidpdx Aug 2014 #61
If you say so LordGlenconner Aug 2014 #65
She was SOS so she will run on foreign policy. CJCRANE Aug 2014 #9
She has to prove she has bigger balls than any man and by god, given the chance, she will do it. CBGLuthier Aug 2014 #10
Frankly, I think there is the idea out there that Skidmore Aug 2014 #11
We have also seen some big foreign policy blunders or reversals CJCRANE Aug 2014 #14
Rand Paul is not an option for me to even consider. Skidmore Aug 2014 #15
I agree on all points. CJCRANE Aug 2014 #16
The MSM wants a horse race. joshcryer Aug 2014 #17
Is America ready for more interventionism? CJCRANE Aug 2014 #19
Things are stable domestically. joshcryer Aug 2014 #24
But the impression was CJCRANE Aug 2014 #31
Who cares if Clinton picks some "moderate liberal"? The person would be a powerless token TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #35
People who set their sights to 2024? joshcryer Aug 2014 #37
The vice Presidency is no springboard to the big chair save via death, 2024 is not even TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #38
That view is not in line with reasonable reality. joshcryer Aug 2014 #43
Ok, fine what about the other 99.90% of issues the court reviews? TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #47
It's because she's so weak on domestic policy/economics. She *needs* the election to be about Romulox Aug 2014 #20
IMO she is a politician and will do/say what is necessary, remember "Landing under fire?" HereSince1628 Aug 2014 #21
She wants a Republican Senate as well as House, mmonk Aug 2014 #22
I wonder how many people commenting on her "breaking from Obama DURHAM D Aug 2014 #23
True, but there are ways to do that that do not reduce to karynnj Aug 2014 #44
$$$Campaign Donations From Certain Sources$$$ Ikonoklast Aug 2014 #25
I don't think it will matter all that much in a primary, for two reasons Unvanguard Aug 2014 #27
If so, why no wait until after November 2014? karynnj Aug 2014 #45
I don't think it will have much impact on the midterms. Unvanguard Aug 2014 #67
Once the dust settles in Iraq--as if-- randr Aug 2014 #29
Whatever the case, and I think you summed it up well BeyondGeography Aug 2014 #32
As SOS it was her responsibility to do Obama's agenda on foreign policy. Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #39
It's both #1 AND #2 ... sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #40
How about the President has told her Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #42
The President has, if anything, favored her over Joe Biden and everyone else karynnj Aug 2014 #46
I would really like to hear Michelle's thoughts on Hillary JaydenD Aug 2014 #64
She's more hawkish and PAProgressive28 Aug 2014 #48
she wanted to "obliterate Iran" magical thyme Aug 2014 #49
"Since she left office"? Obama had to walk back her statements on more than one occasion. ieoeja Aug 2014 #50
+1 n/t MBS Aug 2014 #56
The Honduras coup - the world, including Obama, denounced it JaydenD Aug 2014 #62
I agree, and would add one more thing MBS Aug 2014 #54
She's just showing her Faux pas Aug 2014 #58
Hillary believes she doesn't have a 'likability problem' any more? Dems to Win Aug 2014 #66
This interview does move her "likability" in the wrong direction karynnj Aug 2014 #68
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