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103. I am NOT a "conservative" ...

Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:05 AM

Aug 2014

But two tactics that "the left" promote that I find less than optimal are: 1) the insistence on focusing on economics, rather than social matters; and 2) the seemingly "I want everything, right now", rather than building on gradual social change.

In the first case, I disagree because it works against my political interest, as such a focus leaves me (and all non-straight, non-white males) in the same relative position. In the later case, I disagree because I am a student of history and that history informs us that lasting social change comes as the result of frustratingly small, incremental steps.

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Thomas Frank calls out blind partisanship by Dems [View all] Proud Public Servant Aug 2014 OP

It's been a puzzle why our Dem Party hasn't seized the talking points KoKo Aug 2014 #1

There is no mystery. n2doc Aug 2014 #3

would.... daleanime Aug 2014 #17

I don't think HRC will bother trying to hide her biases n2doc Aug 2014 #21

Exactly. Who to vote for president in ballyhoo Aug 2014 #24

I'm off Warren since she passively announced her position on the Gaza situation AlbertCat Aug 2014 #34

It's a matter of order of importance for me. If a ballyhoo Aug 2014 #39

I may have to face a higher power some day. AlbertCat Aug 2014 #43

The body of your post disavowed your header. For me: ballyhoo Aug 2014 #50

clutching a roll of quarters during their last breath. AlbertCat Aug 2014 #56

Good. Let's say we have a different idea about what will ballyhoo Aug 2014 #57

You are welcome to your beliefs, however passiveporcupine Aug 2014 #68

No mention, sleight or otherwise, was made of or about atheists, so any insult perceived by ballyhoo Aug 2014 #73

You conveniently ignored that I didn't just mention atheists passiveporcupine Aug 2014 #74

I am superior to my God, and that is who I continue reinforcing allegiance to. While ballyhoo Aug 2014 #78

You have a good life too passiveporcupine Aug 2014 #79

Those are the Ones Who Got Run Over While Trying to Feed the Parking Meter AndyTiedye Aug 2014 #83

I know. I usually have to use a credit card. $2.00 for ballyhoo Aug 2014 #86

So Then the GOP Wins and Doubles Aid to Israel, but Your Conscience is Clean AndyTiedye Aug 2014 #84

If H. Clinton-Sachs runs, then all bets are off. It won't be on those of us that won't vote for her rhett o rick Aug 2014 #94

That depends on the importance of the issue, doesn't it?? And THIS is a VERY important issue. I am sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #92

exactly. I had my concerns prior to election, but the first day after election 2banon Aug 2014 #33

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #15

Or at least, they don't vote that way n/t n2doc Aug 2014 #22

Democrats have been very progressive on social issues... kentuck Aug 2014 #27

"Economic" and "social" are not really separate YoungDemCA Aug 2014 #59

I would imagine the vast majority of the electorate isn't aware that the number one octoberlib Aug 2014 #46

I largely agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #49

when 10s of thousands of young and old were involved in the occupy movement questionseverything Aug 2014 #52

It's not that the Democratic Party isn't listening, Maedhros Aug 2014 #65

10s of thousands ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #101

way to ignore questionseverything Aug 2014 #102

What does that have to do with your "vast majority" claim? eom. 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #104

Because Reps are beholden.. sendero Aug 2014 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author ancianita Aug 2014 #71

Problem is, there really isn't another choice n2doc Aug 2014 #2

That's what they told people on plantations, too. But there was. n/t jtuck004 Aug 2014 #5

Occupy tried that. See where it got them n/t n2doc Aug 2014 #6

It took a Civil War and millions dying to effect the other. That would be like comparing it to a jtuck004 Aug 2014 #8

If We Have One of Those Now We Would Probably Lose AndyTiedye Aug 2014 #82

You mistake what I said. I just used that as a comparison, not a suggestion for a strategy. jtuck004 Aug 2014 #87

The Kind of Unity You Envisage is Not Possible AndyTiedye Aug 2014 #88

At some point those fredamae Aug 2014 #4

It's a sell out. zeemike Aug 2014 #18

K&R! DeSwiss Aug 2014 #7

K & R! n/t RufusTFirefly Aug 2014 #9

The Democratic Party is a complete non-entity Cosmocat Aug 2014 #10

If you don't know what Democrats are about ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #19

you missed the point, pretty badly Cosmocat Aug 2014 #23

No, I haven't missed your point ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #29

Yeah Cosmocat Aug 2014 #53

Okay, I just read the snippet and ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #11

K&R 99Forever Aug 2014 #12

That has DU written all over it. L0oniX Aug 2014 #13

The Democratic Party needs and wants the Left ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #28

There is no fear of the left... kentuck Aug 2014 #32

Why should the Democratic Party Establishment ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #36

This is just my opinion... kentuck Aug 2014 #42

Funny ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #48

You really had to say that, didn't you. The Left "Throwing a tantrum". 2banon Aug 2014 #37

Yes, I did ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #38

What exactly in my response motivates you? Because I feel insulted and condescended to? 2banon Aug 2014 #41

I'm sorry that you feel insulted and condescended to ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #44

Certainly you're intelligent enough to know very well there's a hell of a lot more to it than that. 2banon Aug 2014 #55

+1 historylovr Aug 2014 #62

But it all changed with few noticing. busterbrown Aug 2014 #66

But the Left WAS noticing with a very sharp eye, and sounding the horns 2banon Aug 2014 #70

"Temper tantrums" - it's as if Rahm Emmanuel is posting here . . . hatrack Aug 2014 #99

As far as I can tell, the Democratic party historylovr Aug 2014 #47

Yes, the Democratic Party needs/wants the left's 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #51

I agree with you re: the party and the left when it comes to social issues. historylovr Aug 2014 #60

Why do you not eludicate what you mean by 'tactics'. What 'tactics' do liberals have that you Bluenorthwest Aug 2014 #63

I am NOT a "conservative" ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #103

exactly, Phlem Aug 2014 #61

HRC is an unacceptable choice for a presidential candidate. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #14

Not a mystery Rapillion Aug 2014 #16

+1 zeemike Aug 2014 #20

Thank you! Nt Rapillion Aug 2014 #75

Yep, it has to be all out, 100 percent Cosmocat Aug 2014 #25

People get what they deserve Rapillion Aug 2014 #76

What People Get Has Nothing to Do With What they Deserve Most of the Time AndyTiedye Aug 2014 #89

In my opinion, the bottom line... kentuck Aug 2014 #26

yes..and we keep trying to get that message out... KoKo Aug 2014 #80

Spot-On, Outstanding Commentary. 2banon Aug 2014 #30

one side is markedly better than the other; and no criticism of the leadership can be tolerated. AlbertCat Aug 2014 #31

Who? nt conservaphobe Aug 2014 #35

Well the propaganda sure tries to foment blind partisanship. woo me with science Aug 2014 #40

"The Great Depression of the 1930s was awful, BumRushDaShow Aug 2014 #45

Well said. YoungDemCA Aug 2014 #58

It still amazes me that Reid has not ended the filibuster. grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #54

Some of this is the Democrats bragging that they can make Wall Street happier than Republicans. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #64

democrats sold their soles to wall street after reagan. BIZNESS FRENDLEE. pansypoo53219 Aug 2014 #67

THIS. The best thing I've read here in a while. Wasserman-Schultz and Schumer can suck it. ancianita Aug 2014 #72

"dreadful news like this should be rocket fuel. For the Dems, however, it hasn�t been." WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2014 #77

Rocket Fuel Does Us No Good When We Got No Rocket AndyTiedye Aug 2014 #81

We have the rocket -- THE WHITE HOUSE. WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2014 #90

The White House is Only as Much of a "Bully Pulpit" as the Media Allows it to Be AndyTiedye Aug 2014 #97

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #85

Washington DC is a racket. Both Parties are BOUGHT. blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #91

So True And Thanks For Posting This PPS!! raindaddy Aug 2014 #93

This is a thought-provoking article, and quite detailed . . . MrModerate Aug 2014 #95

The Democrats get campaign contributions from corporations too, no real mystery here. Dustlawyer Aug 2014 #96

knr n/t slipslidingaway Aug 2014 #98

Huge K&R! The most important vote we have today is our money and our time. raouldukelives Aug 2014 #100