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In reply to the discussion: Why does Belle Knox consider herself a feminist? [View all]Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)51. third link (and by the way. I am done with you and this)
DOES LEGALIZING PROSTITUTION PROTECT
WOMEN AND GIRLS?
Findings from countries and stat
es where prostitution is legal
Millions of women and girls around the world are exploite
d in the commercial sex industry (i.e. the buying and
selling of sex), which is often the end destination of
sex trafficking. While human rights activists, government
officials and the United Nations all agre
e that the trafficking of women and gi
rls for prostitution is a serious and
growing problem, there is disagreement as to the best wa
y to prevent trafficking and exploitation. Some believe
that targeting the demand for commercia
l sex that fuels sex trafficking while decriminalizing those exploited in
prostitution is the most effective way to curb sex trafficki
ng, while others argue that legalizing or decriminalizing
the commercial sex industry is the best way to weed
out and prevent exploitation and trafficking.
The legalization of prostitution includes legalizing th
e activities involved in and surrounding prostitution, and
often imposing regulations specific to the sex industry.
Countries and states that have legalized prostitution
include:
Senegal
(1969), states in Australia including
Victoria
(1994) and
Queensland
(1999), the
Netherlands
(2000) and
Germany
(2002).
The decriminalization of prostitution includes repealing
all laws or provisions ag
ainst prostitution, and not
imposing prostitution-specific regulations. Countries and stat
es that have decriminalized prostitution include the
Australian state of
New South Wales
(1995), and
New Zealand
(2003).
SEX TRAFFICKING AND EXPLOITATI
ON OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN
NETHERLANDS:
In 2003, the Amsterdam Mayor stated that le
galization had failed to prevent trafficking,
saying it appeared impossible to create a safe and contro
llable zone for women that was not open to abuse by
organised crime.
i
In 2007, a government report noted that
pimps
[i.e. traffickers]
are still a very common
phenomenon
.
ii
WOMEN AND GIRLS?
Findings from countries and stat
es where prostitution is legal
Millions of women and girls around the world are exploite
d in the commercial sex industry (i.e. the buying and
selling of sex), which is often the end destination of
sex trafficking. While human rights activists, government
officials and the United Nations all agre
e that the trafficking of women and gi
rls for prostitution is a serious and
growing problem, there is disagreement as to the best wa
y to prevent trafficking and exploitation. Some believe
that targeting the demand for commercia
l sex that fuels sex trafficking while decriminalizing those exploited in
prostitution is the most effective way to curb sex trafficki
ng, while others argue that legalizing or decriminalizing
the commercial sex industry is the best way to weed
out and prevent exploitation and trafficking.
The legalization of prostitution includes legalizing th
e activities involved in and surrounding prostitution, and
often imposing regulations specific to the sex industry.
Countries and states that have legalized prostitution
include:
Senegal
(1969), states in Australia including
Victoria
(1994) and
Queensland
(1999), the
Netherlands
(2000) and
Germany
(2002).
The decriminalization of prostitution includes repealing
all laws or provisions ag
ainst prostitution, and not
imposing prostitution-specific regulations. Countries and stat
es that have decriminalized prostitution include the
Australian state of
New South Wales
(1995), and
New Zealand
(2003).
SEX TRAFFICKING AND EXPLOITATI
ON OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN
NETHERLANDS:
In 2003, the Amsterdam Mayor stated that le
galization had failed to prevent trafficking,
saying it appeared impossible to create a safe and contro
llable zone for women that was not open to abuse by
organised crime.
i
In 2007, a government report noted that
pimps
[i.e. traffickers]
are still a very common
phenomenon
.
ii
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Yes, but I think you are the Queen of Bakerfield too, so that's different. Your majesty.
Squinch
Aug 2014
#37
Please note the lack of S in my Bakerfield. From one Monarch to another -
Tuesday Afternoon
Aug 2014
#64
Yes! My god, the condescending attitude towards sex workers disgusts me
freeplessinseattle
Aug 2014
#8
How are they "driven" into a job that pays well and allows them to be their own boss?
freeplessinseattle
Aug 2014
#76
Maybe she feels that women should be able to choose their paths in life
PersonNumber503602
Aug 2014
#10
Oh, probably just a bunch of people have me on ignore. I'm sure that's it. n/t
seaglass
Aug 2014
#81
If the RAH RAH PORN YAY dumbassery continues I might have to make it an OP. nt
redqueen
Aug 2014
#82
Of course, a truly empowered woman must be ashamed of her sexuality and not consume porn.
Kurska
Aug 2014
#14
Isn't like we're in a thread that questions if a woman can be a feminists who have a positive
Kurska
Aug 2014
#104
Would I need to provide you a link to the flowers when you're in the garden? n/t
Kurska
Aug 2014
#119
Right. So there is no link to a post where anyone said anything like what you describe.
Squinch
Aug 2014
#120
Got it. You can't provide a link to anyone saying anything like what you describe.
Squinch
Aug 2014
#134
So let's review the posts that say what you describe: Oh, right. There are none.
Squinch
Aug 2014
#136
Predatory Payday Lenders are fully consensual contracts between two adults.
LanternWaste
Aug 2014
#176
Yeah, cause reasonable restrictions on otherwise allowed activities (like maximum interest rate).
Kurska
Aug 2014
#182
Why do minors inevitably come up when there are discussions of pornography and prostitution here?
DemocratSinceBirth
Aug 2014
#20
Bill O'Reilly uses that same argument to oppose the legalization of marijuana
DemocratSinceBirth
Aug 2014
#25
Well, don't get me wrong- I think the prohibitionist/law enforcement approach to "drugs"
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#175
I don't know how we went from discussing consensual sex to a murder spree...
DemocratSinceBirth
Aug 2014
#45
I've read through a few of the links and I don't see any documented evidence or proof
Yavin4
Aug 2014
#47
You still have not provided proof, just conjecture. I've found an actual study that contradicts you
Yavin4
Aug 2014
#54
because that is NOT the Discussion. Never has been. Legal, consenting, sound minded, ADULTS is NOT
Tuesday Afternoon
Aug 2014
#73
YOu are working very hard here to believe in fairy tales. I bet you believe they are working
Squinch
Aug 2014
#84
I don't necessarily oppose legalization, mind you, but there is evidence (as noted downthread)
nomorenomore08
Aug 2014
#106
Even if it's only a possibility, isn't it worth thinking about/discussing? Considering the gravity
nomorenomore08
Aug 2014
#109
If you are using your body in a performance, then it's not "selling" your body.
Yavin4
Aug 2014
#131
And the ones who insistently pretend that these facts aren't related to these industries...
redqueen
Aug 2014
#69
I can't think of lot of things that are more messed up than human trafficking...
DemocratSinceBirth
Aug 2014
#59
Because people can't or wont formulate arguments against consenting adult behavior
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#87
Sort of like the single-minded determination to make arguments about consenting adults
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#96
Thanks for linking to that interview VC, it was interesting. I don't know who Stoya is but she
seaglass
Aug 2014
#115
She knows she's privileged. And she doesn't pretend that porn is feminist because she chose it.
redqueen
Aug 2014
#156
Yes, because something may be personally empowering does not mean it's empowering for women
seaglass
Aug 2014
#166
And--- again. I'm gonna point it out because I think you may genuinely not realize you're doing it.
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#141
Again, talking past each other, I'll only make three points and make them brief:
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#143
I've told you at least 7 or 8 times that you keep putting words in other people's mouths
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#147
And if the quotes meant what you are asserting they mean, then I'm calling the people who disagree
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#155
Last time I checked this is a discussion forum where people disagree all the time...
Violet_Crumble
Aug 2014
#148
The reactions of you and 2nd wavers to folks like Violet and LadyHawkAZ are interesting,
stevenleser
Aug 2014
#152
Your link YET AGAIN confirms my point. In fact, you only addressed one of my 5 main points.
stevenleser
Aug 2014
#154
Why do I think being trafficked to country B is probably just as bad as country A?
stevenleser
Aug 2014
#158
No, what you are proposing does not do that. It does not limit the markets.
stevenleser
Aug 2014
#160
One would imagine people are heading to CO and WA to buy pot right now, too.
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#162
That is an interesting dodge so let me give you an answer you cannot dodge.
stevenleser
Aug 2014
#184
Thats not the issue. The issue is exceeding the boundaries of a studies results.
stevenleser
Aug 2014
#191
I share your ambivalence, to a large extent. And I don't pretend to have definitive answers.
nomorenomore08
Aug 2014
#110
So when Icelandic pols actually did call for a ban & some people here went nuts in celebration
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#163
The dogma of Choice Feminism says any choice a woman makes MUST NOT BE CRITICIZED
redqueen
Aug 2014
#170
I wonder how the industry is surviving at the moment and competing against free
jakeXT
Aug 2014
#173
The idea that female porn performers make the most money in the industry is bullshit.
redqueen
Aug 2014
#174
All people are creatures of their society. And Western society has become pornographied.
WinkyDink
Aug 2014
#167
Did I say anything about a dress code? I said what disparate cultures want of females. The West pays
WinkyDink
Aug 2014
#185
No, what's surprising is that anyone continues to try to flog that ridiculous false equivalence.
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#186
but what about people who get off on telling other people what not to get off on?
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#187