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tech3149

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128. From my perspective, most votes are throw away votes

Mon Aug 11, 2014, 02:19 PM

Aug 2014

Think about it. Most of the choices of who you can vote for are determined for you so you are basically choosing between two evils. It's like "who will stab you in the back or who will slit your throat?" The Republicans have the knife to your throat and you aren't sure which Democrat has the knife at your back.
I didn't become politically involved until 2003. I knew politics was totally effed up and you could not trust most candidates, even for local office, because they would say or do anything that got them or kept them in office.
Obama was a "holding my nose vote" and Hillary will be the same.
Until you and I start building a force from the ground that makes big party players pay attention and take us seriously, we will be thrown to the curb after they get our vote.

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Dear Hillary. Please stop making it difficult for progressives to support you. [View all] DanTex Aug 2014 OP

In my blue state, it seems, increasingly, I'd be throwing away my vote if not cast for someone left villager Aug 2014 #1

In that case either way it will be a throw away vote..I'm movonne Aug 2014 #11

From my perspective, most votes are throw away votes tech3149 Aug 2014 #128

The more we see, the less we like. blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #2

Yeah, and don't forget ending Glass-Steagal!!! Clinton ruined the housing market! TheNutcracker Aug 2014 #17

The Glass-steagal violators LESS likely to go bust Cicada Aug 2014 #31

You subscribe to what Larry Summers tells you? Enthusiast Aug 2014 #51

I thought the same thing mdbl Aug 2014 #59

If you're an investment bank shaayecanaan Aug 2014 #55

Good post. Nobody wants regulations anymore. So no wonder this shit happens. calimary Aug 2014 #124

Examples? DanTex Aug 2014 #58

Why are you talking about Glass-Steagal? It hasn't existed since 1999 . . . hatrack Aug 2014 #85

And then there was NAFTA..... a kennedy Aug 2014 #34

I'm with you. missmo1951 Aug 2014 #56

Hillary George Jr I fail to see the difference PatrynXX Aug 2014 #22

Difficult? She has made it impossible. AtomicKitten Aug 2014 #3

Pretty much this. hifiguy Aug 2014 #4

Ideally she will be knocked out in the primary, again. AtomicKitten Aug 2014 #19

after the Face Palm PatrynXX Aug 2014 #24

Well said! Rockyj Aug 2014 #136

I will not vote for Hillary, period. broiles Aug 2014 #5

Ditto what you said. [n/t] stranger81 Aug 2014 #43

Unfortunately, just about every conceivable Dem candidate Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #48

As long as there is no serious challenger on the left dreamnightwind Aug 2014 #78

you said: freebrew Aug 2014 #123

You are so correct in the 6th Wisconsin House seat warrant46 Aug 2014 #130

I will not support Hillary either. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #76

Even if Ted Cruz is the GOP nominee? yeoman6987 Aug 2014 #87

really rtracey Aug 2014 #95

Well your the one saying that you would rather a Republican win yeoman6987 Aug 2014 #96

you need to read again ace rtracey Aug 2014 #101

Again you said you would never yeoman6987 Aug 2014 #138

Even if cruz is the nominee. It will be a false choice. I'll vote Green. broiles Aug 2014 #137

Ditto. Not a progressive bone in her body. harun Aug 2014 #92

I hope she doesn't go for it arikara Aug 2014 #6

ie PatrynXX Aug 2014 #26

No way I could stomach him. Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #49

Let's get real here.. Hillary is warmongering obnoxiously.. but if you think she's further to Cha Aug 2014 #61

+1,000,000 davidpdx Aug 2014 #63

Not liking it, either, david. I keep thinking we've got two years and a lot can happen that Cha Aug 2014 #66

You would think so davidpdx Aug 2014 #68

Exactly. Cha Aug 2014 #69

I want her to go for it to keep Cuomo out, but then lose. Jim Lane Aug 2014 #42

I cannot bring myself to forgive anyone who voted for IWR Skittles Aug 2014 #7

+1 Dems to Win Aug 2014 #10

My feelings as well sammythecat Aug 2014 #107

very good analysis Skittles Aug 2014 #129

She is a bullet I shall dodge...NO HILLARY!!!! monmouth3 Aug 2014 #8

Stop and think about it INdemo Aug 2014 #21

I don't think you will be alone...n/t monmouth3 Aug 2014 #29

Wish she'd say she's not running, open floodgates for new faces Dems to Win Aug 2014 #9

i quit supporting the DLC after the Bill Clinton administration mdbl Aug 2014 #60

+1 for Kamala Harris! beerandjesus Aug 2014 #98

I sincerely appreciate the spirit of this thread. Laelth Aug 2014 #12

If we can't support who she supports should we support her? littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #13

I wish there was a plausible alternative to Hillary cheapdate Aug 2014 #14

for 2016? it's more than 2 years away. fbc Aug 2014 #122

Let's not forget her predecessor and croney, Madeline Albright Fuddnik Aug 2014 #15

Guess what? It's not going to be easy to get elected as a female flamingdem Aug 2014 #16

I don't think its even the female thing anymore arikara Aug 2014 #71

She polls pretty well flamingdem Aug 2014 #72

But many polls lately have been notoriously wrong arikara Aug 2014 #73

If she's this bad on foreign policy, she's going to be this bad on domestic issues Ken Burch Aug 2014 #80

Why could she "never be commander in chief?" Where does that antiquated view come from? nt MADem Aug 2014 #81

I do not make excuses, let time pass, it is not the time to be running commericals Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #18

replace "support" with "stomach" NightWatcher Aug 2014 #20

So she should lie? thesquanderer Aug 2014 #23

Actually, what I'm hoping is that she is lying, and she doesn't actually believe half this stuff. DanTex Aug 2014 #27

So you would vote for a liar? n/t totodeinhere Aug 2014 #46

I would rather vote for someone who says those things because she thinks it will get her DanTex Aug 2014 #57

Obviously neither. n/t totodeinhere Aug 2014 #70

The only vote HRC will get from me Sherman A1 Aug 2014 #25

Same here passiveporcupine Aug 2014 #28

Sanders is more than just a progressive. Shemp Howard Aug 2014 #32

I totally agree with you. nt NorthCarolina Aug 2014 #47

Amen! Sherman A1 Aug 2014 #79

I agree. woo me with science Aug 2014 #86

Agree on all counts MissDeeds Aug 2014 #102

Agreed davidpdx Aug 2014 #65

The Clintons love to run on that third way BS the theory behind it is that craigmatic Aug 2014 #30

The DLC plan backfires... HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #37

But conservatives & Wall Street likes this sort of thing and their votes are important. whereisjustice Aug 2014 #33

That is the key point. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #39

She doesn't care about the support of Progressives. Maedhros Aug 2014 #35

In case peopel wonder why I take this vote seriously DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #36

I can't beleive that anyone would consider voting for this person for president. bowens43 Aug 2014 #38

Wrong side of every issue from our perspective... HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #40

She is showing us what a Clinton presidency would look like. Chemisse Aug 2014 #41

Too late for me n/t albino65 Aug 2014 #44

She doesnt give a damn if the left supports her. bunnies Aug 2014 #45

That's what she thought last time n/t betterdemsonly Aug 2014 #50

I wish I could give this a rec. I understand the attempt, which makes me :) . But, silvershadow Aug 2014 #52

I will not vote for HRC. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #53

I won't vote for her and I live in a red state. alarimer Aug 2014 #54

She will be a disaster!!!! nt Logical Aug 2014 #62

Jesus, what a frightful thought if Hillary is the nominee indepat Aug 2014 #64

Pertinent Tweets.. thanks Dan Tex.. Cha Aug 2014 #67

At one point I was going to hold my nose BlindTiresias Aug 2014 #74

This Democrat hasn't supported her since 2004 and it's been easy, not difficult at all. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #75

She seems to be trying to appeal to the conservative voters. Kablooie Aug 2014 #77

She should give up on politics and go back to being a Corporate Walmart Lawyer! B Calm Aug 2014 #82

"...cuddly photo ops with Bibi, talking about how right he is to be massacring Gazan civilian." NealK Aug 2014 #83

This is who she is. Still a "Goldwater Girl" after all these years... nt Romulox Aug 2014 #84

+1000 PADemD Aug 2014 #97

Why would you vote for her in a primary when you got Bernie who says he wi run? Hoppy Aug 2014 #88

She doesn't care about our few dollars yellowwoodII Aug 2014 #89

Her husband's actions should not be attributed to her treestar Aug 2014 #90

As somebody otherwise inclined to support her Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2014 #91

If SHE is the nominee, I fortunately will not pangaia Aug 2014 #93

Same for me. bigwillq Aug 2014 #105

Under NO circumstances... BrainDrain Aug 2014 #94

I will never vote for the Goldman Sachs representative of the 1%. L0oniX Aug 2014 #99

The saddest part is that the things progressives want most... Orsino Aug 2014 #100

I'll crawl to the polls and write in Minnie Mouse before I vote for Clinton or a TeaPubliKlan. TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #106

But the Supreme Court! n/t Orsino Aug 2014 #110

Dear Hillary. Please start acting the role of a liberal. PowerToThePeople Aug 2014 #103

ABHC bigwillq Aug 2014 #104

If HRC is our heaven05 Aug 2014 #108

Please continue Hillary hootinholler Aug 2014 #109

Oh, I'm afraid this is music to her Neocon ears 2banon Aug 2014 #111

Difficult? It's impossible for me. TwilightGardener Aug 2014 #112

She's relying on the "Not as bad" votes of the gullible. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #113

translated DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #114

A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue; Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #115

Tell that to the Iraqis DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #116

Tell it to Hillary who signed off on the Iraq war and supported it..and now supports Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #117

Goalpost move DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #119

No, he didn't. Gore didn't get the votes of the left because he failed to convince the left. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #120

Everytime I look up, she's criticing Obama. WTF! Stellar Aug 2014 #118

She should keep it honest. Don't fake progressivism for us. fbc Aug 2014 #121

Some progressives will carry a barf bag and vote for her... polichick Aug 2014 #125

If Hillary Clinton is the nominee and the adverse sentiment on DU is the norm, we are in trouble. olegramps Aug 2014 #126

Hillary is a corporate, Israel-first Democrat. GETPLANING Aug 2014 #127

I will vote for her for one reason alone. SCOTUS. MirrorAshes Aug 2014 #131

I have no qualms about voting for the lesser of two evils tularetom Aug 2014 #132

At some point we have to object. Otherwise, the lower classes will continue rhett o rick Aug 2014 #135

She is a dishonest Rockefeller Republican. She supports people like Rahm Emmanuel and she misleads w4rma Aug 2014 #133

Give Hillary a break. She started out as a Republican. Jack Rabbit Aug 2014 #134