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WillyT

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Tue Aug 12, 2014, 12:07 AM Aug 2014

And After Further Review... And Recent Statements... [View all]

The Next Act of the Neocons
Are Neocons Getting Ready to Ally With Hillary Clinton?

By JACOB HEILBRUNN - NYT
JULY 5, 2014


Neocons like the historian Robert Kagan may be connecting with Hillary Clinton to try to regain influence in foreign policy. Credit Left, Stephanie Sinclair/VII via Corbis; right, Colin McPherson/Corbis

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WASHINGTON — AFTER nearly a decade in the political wilderness, the neoconservative movement is back, using the turmoil in Iraq and Ukraine to claim that it is President Obama, not the movement’s interventionist foreign policy that dominated early George W. Bush-era Washington, that bears responsibility for the current round of global crises.

Even as they castigate Mr. Obama, the neocons may be preparing a more brazen feat: aligning themselves with Hillary Rodham Clinton and her nascent presidential campaign, in a bid to return to the driver’s seat of American foreign policy.

To be sure, the careers and reputations of the older generation of neocons — Paul D. Wolfowitz, L. Paul Bremer III, Douglas J. Feith, Richard N. Perle — are permanently buried in the sands of Iraq. And not all of them are eager to switch parties: In April, William Kristol, the editor of The Weekly Standard, said that as president Mrs. Clinton would “be a dutiful chaperone of further American decline.”

But others appear to envisage a different direction — one that might allow them to restore the neocon brand, at a time when their erstwhile home in the Republican Party is turning away from its traditional interventionist foreign policy.

It’s not as outlandish as it may sound. Consider the historian Robert Kagan, the author of a recent, roundly praised article in The New Republic that amounted to a neo-neocon manifesto. He has not only avoided the vitriolic tone that has afflicted some of his intellectual brethren but also co-founded an influential bipartisan advisory group during Mrs. Clinton’s time at the State Department.

Mr. Kagan has also been careful to avoid landing at standard-issue neocon think tanks like the American Enterprise Institute; instead, he’s a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, that citadel of liberalism headed by Strobe Talbott, who was deputy secretary of state under President Bill Clinton and is considered a strong candidate to become secretary of state in a new Democratic administration. (Mr. Talbott called the Kagan article “magisterial,” in what amounts to a public baptism into the liberal establishment.)

Perhaps most significantly, Mr. Kagan and others have insisted on maintaining the link between modern neoconservatism and its roots in muscular Cold War liberalism...

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More: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/06/opinion/sunday/are-neocons-getting-ready-to-ally-with-hillary-clinton.html?_r=0


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instead of the death of the repubs party we could get the death of the dems nt msongs Aug 2014 #1
Exactly! eom littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #2
This was all carefully orchestrated. As the Republican Party becomes the big joke rhett o rick Aug 2014 #6
I see this as the underlying truth of the current situation. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2014 #14
Kagan's Wife Nuland in Ukraine handing out Cookies to Svoboda Party KoKo Aug 2014 #16
Yes, she was cavorting with neo nazis over there, helping to instigate the violence that has sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #23
What happens to us old lefties? Generic Other Aug 2014 #20
Horrific isn't the word I would use but it may be dire. The left has been neutralized. rhett o rick Aug 2014 #29
I feel like you have articulated the real issue we are facing Generic Other Aug 2014 #30
Excellent catch, WillyT. eom littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #3
I shudder at the thought of her Presidency JaydenD Aug 2014 #4
Barf. octoberlib Aug 2014 #5
So, a neocon who is running away from the other neocons and has landed at a liberal think tank MADem Aug 2014 #7
Kagan..."Wolf in Sheeps Clothing" KoKo Aug 2014 #11
Well, what I see is a guy with his finger in the wind, looking to make a buck. MADem Aug 2014 #27
You Nailed that For sure... But, when do we move beyond this? KoKo Aug 2014 #31
What "finger of ridicule?" Geez! Could you be more unkind? MADem Aug 2014 #33
I hear Ya! KoKo Aug 2014 #34
Kagan is a neocon, or neolib, not that much difference. His wife was the one handing out cookies sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #25
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #8
Re-gain influence of foreign policy??? That's what's wrong now. Their (neo-con) influence has far kelliekat44 Aug 2014 #9
It's looking like Obama was a "Voice of Restraint" in the NeoCon Infexted DOS under Hillary... KoKo Aug 2014 #17
Kick !!! WillyT Aug 2014 #10
"Neocons like the historian Robert Kagan may be connecting with Hillary Clinton..." Sheepshank Aug 2014 #12
Kagan was Adviser to John McCain's Campaign and Hillary Clinton's State Dept... KoKo Aug 2014 #13
Has the Dem party moved to the right enough yet? L0oniX Aug 2014 #15
Far enough for the GOP to reinvent itself from the left leftstreet Aug 2014 #18
omg...When "Pigs Fly!" ...... KoKo Aug 2014 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Aug 2014 #21
Wait! Wut? Generic Other Aug 2014 #22
You better believe it! zappaman Aug 2014 #24
Hillary Clinton will not be the next President of these United States and you Purveyor Aug 2014 #26
Kick. End the wars on humanity. grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #28
I not only support an Eliz Warren pres candidacy, AtomicKitten Aug 2014 #32
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