Hillary should forget about reviving the DLC playbook- the RW will *never* accept her

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33. Your last sentence

illustrates perfectly why these labels don't mean a lot. "Democrats talk about comprising with outright fascism." I have seen nothing of the sort. The problem, I believe, stems from a fundamental misunderstanding of what fascism is.

What both parties do is serve capital. They do so because we live under a capitalist system, and that is the function of the capitalist state. Capitalism depends on the exploitation of labor, so obviously the state doesn't serve the interests of the majority of the public. It never has. In that sense you are right that both parties are on the right. The fact is we haven't had an organized left in this country in a very long time because of systemic efforts by the US government to uproot, deport, and criminalize it: the Palmer Raids, the purges of the McCarthy era, the exclusion of socialists from labor union leadership, etc.

Fascism was actually an effort to find an alternative between capitalism and socialism by incorporating workers and other sectors (like business, agriculture, the military) into the official structures of the state, which was conceived of as a single living organism--a body--hence the term corporatism. That did not mean the function was to serve business corporations as we understand them (that is what capitalism does), but rater than the state was imagined to be like the human body, with different sectors working together toward a common goal, typically nationalism.

Corporatism (also known as corporativism[1]) is the socio-political organization of a society by major interest groups, or corporate groups, such as agricultural, business, ethnic, labour, military, patronage, or scientific affiliations, on the basis of common interests.[2] Corporatism is theoretically based upon the interpretation of a community as an organic body.[3][4] The term corporatism is based on the Latin root word "corpus" (plural – "corpora&quot meaning "body".[4] . . .

Fascism's theory of economic corporatism involved management of sectors of the economy by government or privately controlled organizations (corporations). Each trade union or employer corporation would, theoretically, represent its professional concerns, especially by negotiation of labour contracts and the like. This method, it was theorized, could result in harmony amongst social classes.[31] Authors have noted, however, that de facto economic corporatism was also used to reduce opposition and reward political loyalty.[32]

In Italy from 1922 until 1943, corporatism became influential amongst Italian nationalists led by Benito Mussolini. The Charter of Carnaro gained much popularity as the prototype of a 'corporative state', having displayed much within its tenets as a guild system combining the concepts of autonomy and authority in a special synthesis.[33] Alfredo Rocco spoke of a corporative state and declared corporatist ideology in detail. Rocco would later become a member of the Italian Fascist regime Fascismo.[34]

Italian Fascism involved a corporatist political system in which economy was collectively managed by employers, workers and state officials by formal mechanisms at the national level.[35] This non-elected form of state officializing of every interest into the state was professed to reduce the marginalization of singular interests (as would allegedly happen by the unilateral end condition inherent in the democratic voting process). Corporatism would instead better recognize or 'incorporate' every divergent interest into the state organically, according to its supporters, thus being the inspiration for their use of the term totalitarian, perceivable to them as not meaning a coercive system but described distinctly as without coercion in the 1932 Doctrine of Fascism as thus:
Benito Mussolini

When brought within the orbit of the State, Fascism recognizes the real needs which gave rise to socialism and trade unionism, giving them due weight in the guild or corporative system in which divergent interests are coordinated and harmonized in the unity of the State.[36]

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