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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
57. It's weird. There was no corruption in Siegelman's case.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 11:08 AM
Aug 2014

Siegelman appointed Scrushy to the same hospital board he'd sat on for other Alabama administrations.

This time, though, there was a problem in the form of Karl Rove and his toady, Mark E. Fuller.



Siegelman Case Involved No "Meeting Of The Minds," But Scrushy Still Spent Six Years In Federal Prison

LegalSchnauzer, Thursday, April 18, 2013

A fundamental element of a federal-funds bribery case is that the defendants have a "meeting of the minds" on a "something for something" deal known as a quid pro quo.

Former HealthSouth CEO Richard Scrushy was released from federal prison last summer after serving six years for bribing former Alabama Governor Don Siegelman. But Scrushy said he didn't have a "meeting of the minds" with Siegelman on any of the issues that prosecutors claim constituted a crime. In fact, Scrushy says, he didn't meet with Siegelman at all. That's largely because he barely knew Siegelman, he did not support his election campaigns, and he did not support the education lottery that was central to the governor's term--and ultimately, the government's criminal case.

How on earth did Scrushy get convicted for bribing a governor he hardly knew, did not support, and did not meet with--over a seat on a health-care regulatory board that Scrushy says he did not want? That might go down as one of the great mysteries in the history of American criminal law. To make it more stunning, Scrushy says the government got it wrong about the person he met with and the amount of money involved.

That is one of many revelations from Scrushy's recent interview with San Francisco-based radio host Peter B. Collins. We already have reported that key testimony from former Siegelman aide Nick Bailey was deeply flawed, and prosecutors offered to let Scrushy out of the case in exchange for false testimony against Siegelman. Now we learn that central "facts" in the government's story were wildly off target. A podcast of the full interview can be heard here.

Perhaps most important is this: The government said Scrushy bribed Siegelman for a seat on the Alabama Certificate of Need Board (CON), but Scrushy said he did not even want to be on the board. How do you bribe someone for something you do not want? Here is Scrushy, from the Collins interview:

When Governor Siegelman was elected, he asked me to serve (on the CON board), and I said no. I had no interest in serving. I had resigned under the previous governor, Fob James; I did not complete my three-year term under Fob James. . . . I didn’t want to go to the meetings, and I was tired of it.


SNIP...

In the interview with Collins, Scrushy still seems to have a hard time believing he was prosecuted, much less convicted, for actions that did not come close to meeting the definition of a federal bribe. He points a finger for the whole charade squarely at Republican strategist Karl Rove, who apparently wanted to make sure that Siegelman, a Democrat, could not continue to win races in a GOP stronghold:

(Siegelman) and I never had a conversation about any of this. The transition chief sat down with me and said, "Richard, you need to help. Everybody else is helping. You run a large corporation, and you need to help get these businessmen off that note. . . . " I felt a corporate duty for me to help too, but the question is, "Why weren't these other people [who helped] indicted . . . ?" It was politically convenient for them to pull me into this because of what I had been through at HealthSouth. . . .

Siegelman was going to win the governorship again, and Karl Rove didn’t want that to happen. (The governor and I) never had a conversation about, "Richard would you help me do this or that?" It just didn’t happen.


CONTINUED...

http://legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/2013/04/siegelman-case-involved-no-meeting-of.html



Scrushy spent six years in prison for doing nothing wrong. Oh, Obama DOJ asked Fuller to tack on 20 years to Siegelman's sentence.

Anybody else tired of waiting for Change, let alone Justice?

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K & R historylovr Aug 2014 #1
Meanwhile, ''readers'' in Alabama.... Octafish Aug 2014 #8
+1000. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #13
"Readers" rate worst since WW-2? ThoughtCriminal Aug 2014 #15
Yes, and he had many friends. former9thward Aug 2014 #20
I thought they became friends after they left office? Octafish Aug 2014 #21
They were friends in the early 80s. former9thward Aug 2014 #23
George Wallace, Fob James. nt Mnemosyne Aug 2014 #24
Wow. historylovr Aug 2014 #51
K&R sketchy Aug 2014 #2
''Total Quality Service Isn’t Expensive, It’s Priceless'' Octafish Aug 2014 #9
K&R 99Forever Aug 2014 #3
BFEE Judges really tick me off. Take Richard Leon. Please. Octafish Aug 2014 #17
Recommend. nt Zorra Aug 2014 #4
U.S. District Judge Mark E. Fuller Octafish Aug 2014 #25
The conviction, imprisonment, and continued imprisonment of this poor innocent man is a national Zorra Aug 2014 #29
Manning, Siegelman, innocent people jailed, but we must not be sanctimonious about sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #50
Kickin' Faux pas Aug 2014 #5
There are many strange and un-investigated parties to this story: Roy Atchison, US Attorney... Octafish Aug 2014 #26
This just crazier Faux pas Aug 2014 #27
The stuff makes sane people mad. Octafish Aug 2014 #28
I wouldn't be surprised if it's an international thing. Faux pas Aug 2014 #30
Eyes Wide Shut Octafish Aug 2014 #31
Truth is their Faux pas Aug 2014 #46
Siegelman's daughter has been spending so much of her time and energy trying to win truedelphi Aug 2014 #6
Karl Rove is responsible for this travesty of justice. We are told not to be sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #22
Rove laughed in public about this treason. Octafish Aug 2014 #34
I won't Octafish, but sometimes the sheer magnitude of the corruption is mind boggling. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #39
Absolute Injustice, a Travesty of Just-Us. Octafish Aug 2014 #33
And Obama and the Dem leadership still don't give a F... n2doc Aug 2014 #7
yep. Phlem Aug 2014 #10
That is odd. Guess who got promoted for, eh, after resolving it? Octafish Aug 2014 #35
Travesty that Siegelman fell prey to all this shit. No matter how often you write, you're Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #11
Legal Schnauzer told the truth and got thrown in the slammer for it. Octafish Aug 2014 #36
It is so damn frustrating, and it is important for Americans not to forget about Siegelman. Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #38
Then let's not let it be forgotten. Let's KEEP posting about it and talking about it sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #40
I don't know that you could persuade enough voters this should be a huge issue. I write, I call Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #47
I know it wouldn't be easy, but EVERY mention of this case brings it into the public sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #48
We must keep it current, collectively...agreed. n/t Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #49
K&R. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #12
The story and players... Octafish Aug 2014 #44
Does anyone really expect the administration to do anything to get Don Siegelman out of prison? Jack Rabbit Aug 2014 #14
No, I don't, we are on our own, so let's do something. Let's make it an issue in this sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #41
Well, the Dow Jones is at 17,000, which is what really counts. Octafish Aug 2014 #52
Thank you and thank you to Professor Buchheit Jack Rabbit Aug 2014 #54
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #16
You are most welcome, Uncle Joe! Octafish Aug 2014 #53
K&R&bookmark JEB Aug 2014 #18
Federal Judge Mark E. Fuller arrested on domestic violence charge. Guy's out on bail already. Octafish Aug 2014 #56
Obama's failure to have DOJ reopen a full-blown Siegelman investigation stinks to high heaven 99th_Monkey Aug 2014 #19
And even worse than THAT, he DID look into Republican Sen. Stevens' case, while sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #42
It's weird. There was no corruption in Siegelman's case. Octafish Aug 2014 #57
Thank you, no, there was no corruption in the Siegelman case. Is anyone else tired of waiting for sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #63
KNR. n/t DirkGently Aug 2014 #32
Didya hear what Judge Fuller did to his wife (allegedly cough Turdblossom furball)? Octafish Aug 2014 #58
The people of the South Tsiyu Aug 2014 #37
From your keypad to the Great Accountant... Octafish Aug 2014 #59
LOL.....Some of my friends say, Tsiyu Aug 2014 #65
K&R woo me with science Aug 2014 #43
Siegelman's Judge Charged With Beating Wife, Affair With Clerk Octafish Aug 2014 #60
Kick to expose... CanSocDem Aug 2014 #45
Includes wife beaters...allegedly cough Turdblossom furball... Octafish Aug 2014 #61
JFK had RFK go down to Atlanta to get MLK out of jail in 1960 MinM Aug 2014 #55
The sad thing is... CanSocDem Aug 2014 #62
President Kennedy integrated the Secret Service and FBI. Octafish Aug 2014 #64
Yes .. Abraham Bolden was arrested for his efforts. MinM Aug 2014 #70
His book, ''The Echo from Dealey Plaza,'' made my heart feel like it weighs 140,000 tons. Octafish Aug 2014 #71
President Obama and AG Holder discuss the Siegelman Case MinM Aug 2014 #69
I still despise them each and every one. lonestarnot Aug 2014 #66
I've already kicked and recommended this one, so I can only kick it now. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #67
Recced. Thanks, Octa. nt. Mc Mike Aug 2014 #68
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