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106. The target was the individuals that use the website. I can find examples that show you how this

Reply to chrisa (Reply #96)

Tue Aug 12, 2014, 05:20 PM

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qualifies. This isn't really a grey area at all.

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Feminist website Jezebel gets deluged with rape porn gifs. [View all] sufrommich Aug 2014 OP

Why don't they just moderate their comments, i.e., no one's comments get posted immediately. MADem Aug 2014 #1

Depends on how large a staff they have and how many comments they get. el_bryanto Aug 2014 #4

You're answer is here - Hell Hath No Fury Aug 2014 #5

So, they'll let their readers look at it because they don't have the stomach for it? MADem Aug 2014 #16

Apply the same to DU Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #53

Disable graphics then, for new posters. MADem Aug 2014 #69

Don't even know what to say. TDale313 Aug 2014 #2

Sexism and Racism are close cousins MuttLikeMe Aug 2014 #3

Homophobia is another close cousin as well. K&R. bullwinkle428 Aug 2014 #11

I think misogyny is at the root of homophobia too Skittles Aug 2014 #81

It isn't really about hating Feminism De Leonist Aug 2014 #21

Oh bull. Of course it's about attacking a feminist site. sufrommich Aug 2014 #24

Are they doing it because it's a Feminist Site, yes but... De Leonist Aug 2014 #26

I guessed it was 4chan /b/ doing before I even clicked on the thread. VScott Aug 2014 #31

"The fun is in offending people..." I think you're right. MADem Aug 2014 #44

I believe AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #60

Yes, and I think that the way to deal with them in many cases is to confront them. MADem Aug 2014 #65

"The fun is in offending people..." Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #45

Yeah... I'd say that could pretty much describe a good portion of 4chan VScott Aug 2014 #66

I highly doubt it. eggplant Aug 2014 #34

Whether it is conscious and spoken or not, it is about misogyny Cal Carpenter Aug 2014 #52

Thank you. These same people wouldn't dream of dismissing racist or homophobic attacks this way redqueen Aug 2014 #57

Well put. Thank you. n/t TDale313 Aug 2014 #61

I could not disagree more. TDale313 Aug 2014 #72

Lets make something clear here.... De Leonist Aug 2014 #87

Your prerogative. TDale313 Aug 2014 #93

I AM NOT CALLING THEM HARMLESS PRANKSTERS! De Leonist Aug 2014 #100

I'd argue that the one's targeting feminists TDale313 Aug 2014 #102

Can't the site admins turn off image support? I am not able to follow the link Romulox Aug 2014 #6

Is Jezebel tied to that platform? cui bono Aug 2014 #7

I hate when that happens LittleBlue Aug 2014 #8

This tactic is sadly not new. Misogynists have used porn as a weapon for years. redqueen Aug 2014 #9

Sounds like time to change platforms blackspade Aug 2014 #10

DING DING DING! Blackspade, you're our grand prize winner! rocktivity Aug 2014 #37

I think Gawker either likes, or owns a piece of, Kinja. The Jezebel staffers commented MADem Aug 2014 #49

Perhaps Gawker's advertisers needs to hear from Skidmore Aug 2014 #62

Gawker Media owns a lot of sites. MADem Aug 2014 #71

Don't you just love how most of these commens are about how to avoid the situation redqueen Aug 2014 #12

Yep, was just thinking the same thing. nt sufrommich Aug 2014 #13

Same shit, different day. redqueen Aug 2014 #15

Studied avoidance of the actual issues, yup. Scootaloo Aug 2014 #14

Gawker likely not only doesn't give a shit, but they find the situation drives viewers to the site. MADem Aug 2014 #17

What a facile reading of the situation. redqueen Aug 2014 #19

I read the entire piece at the Jezebel site, AND at least half of the 1000 plus replies. MADem Aug 2014 #27

Once again you're all about treating symptoms. redqueen Aug 2014 #32

And ONCE AGAIN, YOU're all about making this PERSONAL. How entirely unnecessary. MADem Aug 2014 #38

exactly. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #42

The focus is how to deal with misogynists, and not how to prevent misogynists from using the site redqueen Aug 2014 #46

Why doesn't that website get juries and a MIRT? (nt) Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #18

Huh? Warpy Aug 2014 #25

They used to have moderators and a three tiered system of letting commenters into the pool. MADem Aug 2014 #29

Hasn't done much for the sexism problem here. LeftyMom Aug 2014 #55

Sounds to me like Kinja is a lousy blog platform. MineralMan Aug 2014 #20

I think the blog is a wholely owned subsidiary of the parent. MADem Aug 2014 #30

Yes. So it seems. MineralMan Aug 2014 #35

How can they move if they're owned by Gawker, the platform provider? MADem Aug 2014 #40

You could be right. It's a big problem, anyhow, I think. MineralMan Aug 2014 #41

I think it's a tightrope situation for GAWKER. MADem Aug 2014 #43

It seems to be a function of the entire Internet MineralMan Aug 2014 #47

Yes--one of the JEZEBEL commenters had a good idea about that. MADem Aug 2014 #50

Identifying trolls would require capturing an IP address. redqueen Aug 2014 #51

It can take quite a lot of work to unmask dedicated trolls. MineralMan Aug 2014 #54

Not if you confront them directly. Make it a news story. MADem Aug 2014 #58

That works if you know who the person is. MineralMan Aug 2014 #64

Piece of cake--give them a blog to go to. MADem Aug 2014 #68

Wasn't there the ability to disable picture posts for a little while? Xyzse Aug 2014 #22

Kinja sucks so, so bad. Brickbat Aug 2014 #23

You think Gawker WOULDN'T step up rocktivity Aug 2014 #39

It is happening to Gawker itself. Brickbat Aug 2014 #56

I'll re-phrase the question, your honor rocktivity Aug 2014 #63

"Men's Rights Advocates" (MRA) and Bro-country fans. Dawson Leery Aug 2014 #28

Thank you for noticing the problem and commenting on it! nt redqueen Aug 2014 #33

That's sick! NealK Aug 2014 #36

Some people (MRAs) have nothing better to with their time ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #48

Why not just place a call to Anonymous? derby378 Aug 2014 #59

That would be like calling the police on the police. VScott Aug 2014 #67

Seems to me the quickest technical fix would be to disable graphics in the comments Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #70

I'm surprised that the comments allowed graphics in the first place. JVS Aug 2014 #74

It's way easier to disable animated gifs than to maintain and constantly update a list of 4chan Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #75

I can't argue with that. I do think they like the good gifs, though--it's just the bad ones that MADem Aug 2014 #77

Having done many terms on MIRT with our own particularly nasty troll(s) Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #78

Now, the question is, why don't they implement such a fix? MADem Aug 2014 #82

Maybe they feel that losing the ability to respond with the tina fey eyeroll Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #84

The pushback against eliminating gifs was pretty strong, I noticed. MADem Aug 2014 #88

I agree. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #98

Heh. I am not at any Chan at all, except maybe Charlie--I used to watch those old blatantly MADem Aug 2014 #99

shake the hand, that shook the hand Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #104

It's for the amusing kittie gifs, and things like that.... MADem Aug 2014 #76

This is at a minimum cyberharassment and as such ought to be prosecuted. hlthe2b Aug 2014 #73

Not defending them, but the trolls would call it "free speech" and it is a private site, so the MADem Aug 2014 #79

There is a line beyond which even our rudimentary cyber laws would consider stalking behavior.... hlthe2b Aug 2014 #80

I think it is rude and offensive conduct, but I wouldn't call posting trash on a comment board MADem Aug 2014 #86

Have you seen what they are posting? I'd saying it is walking close to a hate crime hlthe2b Aug 2014 #89

The goal is upset. It has nothing to do with "hate" against a MADem Aug 2014 #91

Do you know the people doing this? I presume not, boston bean Aug 2014 #101

This was discussed upthread. nt MADem Aug 2014 #103

Agreed. From what I remember of cyberstalking laws, this qualifies. stevenleser Aug 2014 #83

Posting rude crap on a discussion board qualifies as cyberstalking? MADem Aug 2014 #90

It definitely can be, particularly obscene content. The key is the intent and repeated nature. stevenleser Aug 2014 #92

It's technically not "repeated." MADem Aug 2014 #95

It's repeated if at least two of the posters are connected in some way. stevenleser Aug 2014 #105

Bit of a grey area, Steve. chrisa Aug 2014 #96

The target was the individuals that use the website. I can find examples that show you how this stevenleser Aug 2014 #106

The problem is, that argument could be used for any type of trolling. chrisa Aug 2014 #107

Nasty shit, man. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #85

I hate trolls and hope there is a special place in hell for them. Rex Aug 2014 #94

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