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whathehell

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104. I think that's probably not the case, but I could be wrong..

Tue Aug 12, 2014, 05:12 PM

Aug 2014

I don't think they'd bother trying to cover up an overdose, most everyone knew he

had a drug history. As for "auto-erotic asphyxiation" -- I don't know...He was alone,

according to his wife...It's an icky picture, any way it's framed, that's for sure.

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If you've ever been depressed you "understand" the thought of suicide. [View all] NightWatcher Aug 2014 OP

So true and Skidmore Aug 2014 #1

Often with clowns and comedians ripcord Aug 2014 #27

But, Doctor, I am Pagliacci! Orsino Aug 2014 #84

I've never been there sharp_stick Aug 2014 #2

+1 YoungDemCA Aug 2014 #4

National Suicide Prevention Lifeline is 1-800-273-8255 steve2470 Aug 2014 #3

K & R +1,000,000 nt ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #5

You dont want to kill yourself...You just want the pain to stop. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #6

true nt steve2470 Aug 2014 #8

That's it... whathehell Aug 2014 #14

a person isn't thinking rationally annm4peace Aug 2014 #24

Those are good, sobering thoughts.. whathehell Aug 2014 #32

I'm thinking this may be a classic case of covering up an overdose.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #94

I think that's probably not the case, but I could be wrong.. whathehell Aug 2014 #104

You have hit this nail squarely... MrMickeysMom Aug 2014 #67

Been there,done that and got the T shirt. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #70

I just wish I could 'rec' your reply. mwooldri Aug 2014 #81

Suicide as a treatment option ashling Aug 2014 #89

I lost a brother to suicide, 29 years ago, and it still hurts Siwsan Aug 2014 #7

'Silent Grief' is a good book I have read several times, it helped. nt Mnemosyne Aug 2014 #37

I lost my husband this past Dec this way. Devastating. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2014 #42

I am so very sorry for your loss. May the Lady bless and keep you, and may your husband niyad Aug 2014 #50

Thank you. This news hit me hard today. Mojorabbit Aug 2014 #52

how unspeakably sad and awful that must have been. I am truly, truly sorry renate Aug 2014 #71

My brother-in-law hanged himself 15 years ago. Part of me still really hates him for it. Throd Aug 2014 #55

you need to forgive him and let it go Skittles Aug 2014 #61

it is like something is pulling you to the other side annm4peace Aug 2014 #63

Been there also. ncliberal Aug 2014 #9

In my youth I learned that suicide was very bad rurallib Aug 2014 #10

Well said n/t MissDeeds Aug 2014 #40

I have been depressed, and I got help. CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2014 #11

yes too young steve2470 Aug 2014 #12

Well I DO Understand! ChiciB1 Aug 2014 #13

I've battled the feeling many times. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2014 #15

I've been close a dozen times, and understand--understand that it won't mean any damn *peace* MisterP Aug 2014 #16

Yep obxhead Aug 2014 #17

Depression can be overcome. Don't give up. Vattel Aug 2014 #18

I've been there Marrah_G Aug 2014 #19

Been there as well. nt GliderGuider Aug 2014 #20

I have, and I do, liberalhistorian Aug 2014 #21

Thank you for getting it NightWatcher Aug 2014 #22

Been there. zappaman Aug 2014 #23

when I was in that same place I thought annm4peace Aug 2014 #26

Lost my mother to suicide LittleBlue Aug 2014 #25

He was probably self-medicating an underlying mental health disorder REP Aug 2014 #28

And other elements of modern life can affect people as well. truedelphi Aug 2014 #91

Williams had a documented history of BPD REP Aug 2014 #93

The two situations, being bi polar, & having a diet that includes foods laced with MSG, truedelphi Aug 2014 #105

Thank you for this, NightWatcher MissDeeds Aug 2014 #29

For US Veterans.. yuiyoshida Aug 2014 #30

Not only understand it, but refrain from condemning the choice. Loudly Aug 2014 #31

"Reality. What a concept!" MustBeTheBooz Aug 2014 #69

I was diagnosed in 2002 with "Severe Clinical Depression" & 10 yrs untreated PTSD.... Ghost in the Machine Aug 2014 #33

The way I describe it to people jeff47 Aug 2014 #39

Thank you. LoisB Aug 2014 #34

Yes, how true. NaturalHigh Aug 2014 #35

Very different. Like a dark aura around you that you want to be away from. harun Aug 2014 #92

I've been there - LiberalElite Aug 2014 #36

Been there, but never thought of ending my life. n/t RebelOne Aug 2014 #38

my first comment AnAzulTexas Aug 2014 #41

welcome to DU, and thank you very much for sharing that with us renate Aug 2014 #72

Struggled with major depression since I was a child. At the darkest times, suicide is an idea for keopeli Aug 2014 #43

I hope you can stop this from happening. Is therapy any solace for you? CTyankee Aug 2014 #103

I've been there as well. Iron Man Aug 2014 #44

I'm glad you are doing better. LisaLynne Aug 2014 #46

Thank you. Iron Man Aug 2014 #53

There are treatments, but artists struggle with knowing that the treatments rhett o rick Aug 2014 #45

Spot on. Duer 157099 Aug 2014 #51

That change whathehell Aug 2014 #77

What change? I have seen what treatment can do first hand. Do you have any rhett o rick Aug 2014 #79

I'm referring to the comment made by you.. whathehell Aug 2014 #83

Then it seems you contradicted yourself. The "change" I was referring to dealt with rhett o rick Aug 2014 #108

No, it seems we've misinterpreted each other. whathehell Aug 2014 #112

^^This^^ SammyWinstonJack Aug 2014 #88

I have peered into the abyss... GreenEyedLefty Aug 2014 #47

Thank you for this thread. LisaLynne Aug 2014 #48

And so often a comic, catrose Aug 2014 #49

I detest people who call suicides cowards and the "easy way out" Skittles Aug 2014 #54

agreed ! nt steve2470 Aug 2014 #56

I agree OwnedByCats Aug 2014 #75

it's not cowardice OR courage Skittles Aug 2014 #107

+1000. And they don't know what they're talking about. nt raccoon Aug 2014 #78

He seemed so not depressed oberliner Aug 2014 #57

some people are able to smile and hide it steve2470 Aug 2014 #58

It just seems so incongruous oberliner Aug 2014 #60

Self-medication comes in many forms. jeff47 Aug 2014 #64

He spoke about his struggles with depression over 20 years ago, has been a long time thing uppityperson Aug 2014 #73

But he always said he was not clinical depressed oberliner Aug 2014 #76

There are times when life can feel really hopeless fujiyama Aug 2014 #59

Absolutely davidpdx Aug 2014 #62

It's a tricky feeling. gulliver Aug 2014 #65

A close friend attempted to kill herself last week. F4lconF16 Aug 2014 #66

Some struggle much more than anyone knows... marew Aug 2014 #68

Been there too. lovemydog Aug 2014 #74

you put it well. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2014 #90

It is a lifelong struggle magical thyme Aug 2014 #80

I understand now that what I considered mild depression wasn't even close. tridim Aug 2014 #82

Low seratonin, dopamine, or acetyl-choline levels will make you depressed... grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #85

Both of us at this household use the 5-Htp, and it can be remarkable. truedelphi Aug 2014 #96

Tyrosine is the precursor for dopamine... grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #98

Thanks for the information. truedelphi Aug 2014 #99

Tyrosine is an amino acid, not a b-vitamin. You may be thinking of thiamine. grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #110

Preferably while being monitored by some sort of health professional Blasphemer Aug 2014 #109

preferably, if you can find one that belives in nutrition and not just drugs. grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #111

A friend of mine shot herself. hamsterjill Aug 2014 #86

National Suicide Prevention Lifeline mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2014 #87

Sadly, we all share part of the responisbility for this event Thunderbeast Aug 2014 #95

So you had a chance to speak with his doctors? sybylla Aug 2014 #100

He DID talk about it through his entire career Thunderbeast Aug 2014 #102

Twice. n/t Triana Aug 2014 #97

I hope nobody here feels the urge to make jokes about this. redstatebluegirl Aug 2014 #101

Kind Of I Suppose colsohlibgal Aug 2014 #106