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amandabeech

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59. Then CNN is wrong.

Tue Aug 12, 2014, 06:41 PM

Aug 2014

Or they are talking about those same purged Sunnis.

I seem to recall that we pulled in Sunnis during the struggles in Anbar Province, as well, when we realized that we needed local help.

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Seriously, what happened to the Iraq army we spent trillions on? [View all] grahamhgreen Aug 2014 OP

It's strange that ISIS are better trained and better equipped CJCRANE Aug 2014 #1

It actually is strange. Usually fanatics and maniacs don't come with shitloads of discipline, TwilightGardener Aug 2014 #8

There are reports that high-ranking Iraqi Sunni military officers went over to IS. amandabeech Aug 2014 #24

And the battle harded foreign fighters AngryAmish Aug 2014 #38

The Chechens are in northern Iraq? amandabeech Aug 2014 #40

Syria and Iraq is hot this year for that set. AngryAmish Aug 2014 #41

Well, they've surely given the Russians fits over the years. amandabeech Aug 2014 #44

Wherever there is a fight. AngryAmish Aug 2014 #46

How about Libya? n/t amandabeech Aug 2014 #47

Bush actually purged the Iraqi army of Sunnis. louis-t Aug 2014 #52

Then CNN is wrong. amandabeech Aug 2014 #59

I'm not sure how much training and discipline they have LordGlenconner Aug 2014 #27

I'm not surprised by it. Chan790 Aug 2014 #48

I agree on most points but their propaganda is on a whole new level. CJCRANE Aug 2014 #50

Baathists in ISIS? Capt. Obvious Aug 2014 #63

Strange bedfellows. Chan790 Aug 2014 #69

So the Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld cabal Turbineguy Aug 2014 #64

And I doubt they'll stay off Iran for long Capt. Obvious Aug 2014 #68

This time the media will attack the President at every turn for not launching more death and Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #2

FWIW... CJCRANE Aug 2014 #6

Bush did agree to the w/drawal date, but not until almost the merrily Aug 2014 #29

I'm starting to be of an opinion we shouldn't give a shit..... snooper2 Aug 2014 #3

I hate to feel like I'm leaning that way as well. Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #5

I think the end result will be Iran moves in and takes out the extremists. And winds up with souther grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #22

Hmm, this wasn't mentioned by the expert flamingdem Aug 2014 #53

We spent trillions, but not on the Army... joeybee12 Aug 2014 #4

So, in the end, we spent trillions to destabilize the Middle East, create misery for millions of grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #13

Pretty mcuh sums it up...nt joeybee12 Aug 2014 #23

For the plutocracy, this is a feature, not a bug. phantom power Aug 2014 #28

+1 merrily Aug 2014 #30

Taking no position on GTFO. Chan790 Aug 2014 #51

Amen grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #60

That is it in a nutshell. nt raouldukelives Aug 2014 #67

poli's & thei rich overlords used to make graft on construction etc. in their whome states/towns elehhhhna Aug 2014 #61

Their country is not the only fucked up country. What if that money had been spent on the USA? L0oniX Aug 2014 #7

Apparently, our Treasury is a bottomless pit, but only for our military endeavors. merrily Aug 2014 #32

Better question malaise Aug 2014 #9

Apparently, ISIS got a chunk. grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #14

Well without them malaise Aug 2014 #55

I don't know. I do know that arming and training the "good" Syrian rebels TwilightGardener Aug 2014 #10

Or what was then called ISIS or immoderate Sunnis amandabeech Aug 2014 #26

AFAIK we did arm Syrians. Whether they were "good" rebels or bad rebels only merrily Aug 2014 #33

Ref.: Vietnam. nm Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #11

+1 Johonny Aug 2014 #12

Or send wounded Vietnam vets Kerry and McCain there for a trade agreement, merrily Aug 2014 #35

I find the parallel between the brutal, psychotic, Khmer Rouge that emerged after we bombed grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #17

+1. Or Gaza. nt bemildred Aug 2014 #21

Ironically, the NV Army smashed the Khmer Rouge Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #43

They took them out of power in 1979. former9thward Aug 2014 #56

I'll concede that. Thanks. Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #58

They dropped their weapons and ran, that's what happened. bemildred Aug 2014 #15

Or the soldiers joined the IS RobertEarl Aug 2014 #16

That's what I'm really wondering... What percentage of ISIS are disaffected Iraqi military? grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #18

I'm sure they all just loved the US...? RobertEarl Aug 2014 #20

Quite a few of those too, no doubt. nt bemildred Aug 2014 #19

We spent it on something? I thought that the military industrial complex stole it all. Initech Aug 2014 #25

In the Middle East, zealous holy warriors prevail LittleBlue Aug 2014 #31

I'm pretty sure I saw many of them around El Cajon last year. Zorra Aug 2014 #34

See Haliburton, Blackwater, Worldwide Protective Services, etc CanonRay Aug 2014 #36

Americans don't understand people from this part of the world AngryAmish Aug 2014 #37

Unfortunately, many us here new this BEFORE we lost our blood and treasure in Iraq... As they say grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #62

Same thing that happens to everyone there. Codeine Aug 2014 #39

We set up a sectarian leader. sendero Aug 2014 #42

We gave it all to Blackwater, Halliburton, RAND, Bechtel, Trireme and other corporations Rex Aug 2014 #45

the kurds are outnumbered and less well armed La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2014 #49

How the f#ck could they be less well armed, if we'd actually been training and equipping them??? grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #65

we trained but did not give them heavy artillery as they are not officially part of the iraqi army La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2014 #70

The same thing that happened with the S. Vietnamese army, that we spent billions on. Paladin Aug 2014 #54

Decades of dictator rule affects a nation's psychology. DCBob Aug 2014 #57

Actually, it's been a millenia of tribal war.... grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #66