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jeff47

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59. FBaggins isn't the only one who thinks depressed people are morons.

Wed Aug 13, 2014, 10:25 AM

Aug 2014

It's actually quite common, even from people you'd think would know better. Largely because clinical depression is so outside most people's experience that they make mistakes when they create a mental framework of what they think clinical depression is like.

Yes, famous or spectacular suicides can cause copycats. But it isn't depression that is causing that copycat. We're talking about people who fundamentally believe they are not worthy. Of anything. To copycat, you have to believe you are worthy. You too can be just like (famous person).

While depression is always a factor in suicide - happy people don't kill themselves - it isn't the only thing going on in the heads of all suicidal people.

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This picture tweeted by The Academy (Oscars) about Robin Williams is beyond poignant: [View all] Are_grits_groceries Aug 2014 OP

another movie I loved.......he was just exceptional in this. a kennedy Aug 2014 #1

Genius malaise Aug 2014 #2

That's nice at first, but I don't think I like it. FBaggins Aug 2014 #3

I've suffered from depression and been suicidal Shivering Jemmy Aug 2014 #5

I don't have personal experience with depression but perhaps for those Hosnon Aug 2014 #8

And that was my point FBaggins Aug 2014 #12

And that wasn't my point. Hosnon Aug 2014 #13

To a depressed & suicidal person "end suffering" and "solution" are often the same thing. n/t FBaggins Aug 2014 #14

Look, I didn't claim to have personal knowledge of depression. But the sentiment makes sense to me. Hosnon Aug 2014 #15

you are spot on, Hosnon Skittles Aug 2014 #41

You are being obtuse HangOnKids Aug 2014 #19

Why are you trolling this thread, just to wave your finger at people ? NM_Birder Aug 2014 #30

With 4 hides in 90 days I would think you might want to stop being the board nanny HangOnKids Aug 2014 #46

Good catch fascisthunter Aug 2014 #51

I'm flattered you are so interested in me, NM_Birder Aug 2014 #55

HOLY MARSH MELLOWS BATMAN ! NM_Birder Aug 2014 #57

I understand what you mean, NM_Birder Aug 2014 #17

That would be alluding not eluding HangOnKids Aug 2014 #20

The irony in your post just made my day, thanks ! NM_Birder Aug 2014 #23

Sorry no you're in my post HangOnKids Aug 2014 #24

lol ... that was terribly written. NM_Birder Aug 2014 #29

Allude means to hint at, suggest HangOnKids Aug 2014 #45

LOL, you're spelling lesson is doing the trick, NM_Birder Aug 2014 #56

Please keep going Birder HangOnKids Aug 2014 #25

I'm not a religious man, NM_Birder Aug 2014 #33

People suffering from depression are not morons. jeff47 Aug 2014 #28

It isn't an issue of intelligence FBaggins Aug 2014 #34

Then don't treat them like morons. jeff47 Aug 2014 #36

Did you even read what you replied to? FBaggins Aug 2014 #37

Yes. The problem is you are building a mental framework that is outside your experiences. jeff47 Aug 2014 #39

And what you're doing is trying to speak for every person who ever suffered from depression. MADem Aug 2014 #53

So got hidden when you were being stupid in another thread jeff47 Aug 2014 #58

Suicide contagion and social media: The dangers of sharing �Genie, you�re free� Hissyspit Aug 2014 #49

Good article. MADem Aug 2014 #54

FBaggins isn't the only one who thinks depressed people are morons. jeff47 Aug 2014 #59

I think we'll take the meical professionals word over your own. FBaggins Aug 2014 #61

The medical professionals are talking about a different swath of people jeff47 Aug 2014 #62

As if that makes your claims any more valid. FBaggins Aug 2014 #63

No, what I'm trying to get you to do is understand what depression really is jeff47 Aug 2014 #64

You mean "certain kinds of depression"... right? FBaggins Aug 2014 #65

No, I'm talking about the medical condition. jeff47 Aug 2014 #66

I Suffer from Clinical Depression fascisthunter Aug 2014 #50

Do you also suffer from dysgraphia? FBaggins Aug 2014 #60

I've never been sadder over a celebrity's death. tblue Aug 2014 #4

Me too. nt snappyturtle Aug 2014 #6

Yes I am sad about this. Also was sad about Phillip Seymour Hoffman. DanTex Aug 2014 #21

This hit me really hard too and I don't even know why. I didn't particularly like his manic style, catbyte Aug 2014 #7

I agree with too much... daleanime Aug 2014 #11

"I wish this country had more compassion, period." woo me with science Aug 2014 #16

same here Enrique Aug 2014 #26

The 10 year old boy in me is absolutely devastated. Hosnon Aug 2014 #9

... Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #10

Mork has returned to Ork! polmaven Aug 2014 #18

That flat made me cry libodem Aug 2014 #22

Wonderful pic. hifiguy Aug 2014 #27

that's very powerful and brings tears to my eyes samsingh Aug 2014 #31

Damn. Ya got me. JNelson6563 Aug 2014 #32

One of the best tributes to Robin Williams so far. n/t ChazII Aug 2014 #35

That one hits home LittleBlue Aug 2014 #38

I decided to see what the Dark Side was saying.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #40

You bet, Spitfire Iwillnevergiveup Aug 2014 #42

Especially with their heads up their asses. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #47

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #43

k and r, with tears. niyad Aug 2014 #44

. Fearless Aug 2014 #48

Free of the crushing debt and bills he couldn't pay, at any rate. MADem Aug 2014 #52