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FBaggins

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63. As if that makes your claims any more valid.
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 11:07 AM
Aug 2014

Hint... it doesn't.

So you're saying that it's perfectly ok for me to be concerned with the use of the image... so long as I was talking about different forms of depression than you meant? Maybe manic depressives are "morons"... but not your flavor of depression?

That's ridiculous... and I can only suggest that you delete your prior posts on the matter.

Here are some more people who you seem to think don't get it:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/08/13/robin-williams-genie-free_n_5674076.html

But mental health experts have warned that the image, when coupled with the caption, has some sinister undertones - a glorification of suicide as "freeing" an individual from pain and suffering, and a solution to problems. The Samaritan's guidelines for media on reporting suicide advise against anything that might "suggest that people are honouring the suicidal behaviour, rather than mourning a death".

...snip...

"It's not a helpful picture to share," Jane Powell, director of CALM which works on male suicide prevention, told The Huffington Post UK. "It's obviously been done very innocently, but the message is 'wouldn't you like to be free too?'

...snip...

Mark Winstanley, the chief executive of Rethink Mental Illness said he understood why people may want to share comforting images with "good intentions" when they are in mourning for a much-loved public figure, but said that the clip could "suggest suicide is a good ‘way out’, or an answer to your problems".

...snip...

Danny Baker, a mental health campaigner who started the Depression is Not Destiny project, said that the image glorified the act of suicide. "Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem, but the message here is not the one we should be pushing, which is - you can get help. This portrays it as a 'release'."

...snip...

“The reason why many international organisations have developed media reporting guidelines on suicide is because there is clear evidence that insensitive, over-simplified, melodramatic and overly sensationalised reporting is associated with increased risk of suicide in others, in particular among people who are already vulnerable,” said Professor Rory O'Connor, of the Suicidal Behaviour Research Laboratory at the University of Glasgow.


http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00031539.htm

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another movie I loved.......he was just exceptional in this. a kennedy Aug 2014 #1
Genius malaise Aug 2014 #2
That's nice at first, but I don't think I like it. FBaggins Aug 2014 #3
I've suffered from depression and been suicidal Shivering Jemmy Aug 2014 #5
I don't have personal experience with depression but perhaps for those Hosnon Aug 2014 #8
And that was my point FBaggins Aug 2014 #12
And that wasn't my point. Hosnon Aug 2014 #13
To a depressed & suicidal person "end suffering" and "solution" are often the same thing. n/t FBaggins Aug 2014 #14
Look, I didn't claim to have personal knowledge of depression. But the sentiment makes sense to me. Hosnon Aug 2014 #15
you are spot on, Hosnon Skittles Aug 2014 #41
You are being obtuse HangOnKids Aug 2014 #19
Why are you trolling this thread, just to wave your finger at people ? NM_Birder Aug 2014 #30
With 4 hides in 90 days I would think you might want to stop being the board nanny HangOnKids Aug 2014 #46
Good catch fascisthunter Aug 2014 #51
I'm flattered you are so interested in me, NM_Birder Aug 2014 #55
HOLY MARSH MELLOWS BATMAN ! NM_Birder Aug 2014 #57
I understand what you mean, NM_Birder Aug 2014 #17
That would be alluding not eluding HangOnKids Aug 2014 #20
The irony in your post just made my day, thanks ! NM_Birder Aug 2014 #23
Sorry no you're in my post HangOnKids Aug 2014 #24
lol ... that was terribly written. NM_Birder Aug 2014 #29
Allude means to hint at, suggest HangOnKids Aug 2014 #45
LOL, you're spelling lesson is doing the trick, NM_Birder Aug 2014 #56
Please keep going Birder HangOnKids Aug 2014 #25
I'm not a religious man, NM_Birder Aug 2014 #33
People suffering from depression are not morons. jeff47 Aug 2014 #28
It isn't an issue of intelligence FBaggins Aug 2014 #34
Then don't treat them like morons. jeff47 Aug 2014 #36
Did you even read what you replied to? FBaggins Aug 2014 #37
Yes. The problem is you are building a mental framework that is outside your experiences. jeff47 Aug 2014 #39
And what you're doing is trying to speak for every person who ever suffered from depression. MADem Aug 2014 #53
So got hidden when you were being stupid in another thread jeff47 Aug 2014 #58
Suicide contagion and social media: The dangers of sharing ‘Genie, you’re free’ Hissyspit Aug 2014 #49
Good article. MADem Aug 2014 #54
FBaggins isn't the only one who thinks depressed people are morons. jeff47 Aug 2014 #59
I think we'll take the meical professionals word over your own. FBaggins Aug 2014 #61
The medical professionals are talking about a different swath of people jeff47 Aug 2014 #62
As if that makes your claims any more valid. FBaggins Aug 2014 #63
No, what I'm trying to get you to do is understand what depression really is jeff47 Aug 2014 #64
You mean "certain kinds of depression"... right? FBaggins Aug 2014 #65
No, I'm talking about the medical condition. jeff47 Aug 2014 #66
I Suffer from Clinical Depression fascisthunter Aug 2014 #50
Do you also suffer from dysgraphia? FBaggins Aug 2014 #60
I've never been sadder over a celebrity's death. tblue Aug 2014 #4
Me too. nt snappyturtle Aug 2014 #6
Yes I am sad about this. Also was sad about Phillip Seymour Hoffman. DanTex Aug 2014 #21
This hit me really hard too and I don't even know why. I didn't particularly like his manic style, catbyte Aug 2014 #7
I agree with too much... daleanime Aug 2014 #11
"I wish this country had more compassion, period." woo me with science Aug 2014 #16
same here Enrique Aug 2014 #26
The 10 year old boy in me is absolutely devastated. Hosnon Aug 2014 #9
... Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #10
Mork has returned to Ork! polmaven Aug 2014 #18
That flat made me cry libodem Aug 2014 #22
Wonderful pic. hifiguy Aug 2014 #27
that's very powerful and brings tears to my eyes samsingh Aug 2014 #31
Damn. Ya got me. JNelson6563 Aug 2014 #32
One of the best tributes to Robin Williams so far. n/t ChazII Aug 2014 #35
That one hits home LittleBlue Aug 2014 #38
I decided to see what the Dark Side was saying.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #40
You bet, Spitfire Iwillnevergiveup Aug 2014 #42
Especially with their heads up their asses. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #47
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #43
k and r, with tears. niyad Aug 2014 #44
. Fearless Aug 2014 #48
Free of the crushing debt and bills he couldn't pay, at any rate. MADem Aug 2014 #52
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