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agentS

(1,325 posts)
19. Dammed if you do. Dammed if you don't.
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 10:30 AM
Aug 2014
Obama and Hillary Clinton gave dueling interviews in which they publicly split on whether the security and humanitarian catastrophe in Syria could have been avoided if the United States had played a larger role.


This statement is kind of a 'wash' by all sides. If you look at everything closely, you'll find that the same # of people would have died no matter what we did.

We COULD have intervened "more"...but because of the actions of a certain idiot CIC (Bush) we didn't have the resources available to invade Syria in force, which is what would have been the way to prevent the current massacre. HOWEVER, given what happened in Iraq, an UN-US interventions/invasion would probably have caused a smaller number, but still egregious number of casualties. Plus, there were protests from Syrians for us to NOT invade, so the US listened. And now some of them are mad at us (and want to attack us) because we didn't go after Assad with air strikes or special forces. Obama, Assad, and Putin did work together to dispose of the chemical weapons, so we got what WE wanted most. Regime change is a different story, which thanks to foreign fighters, doesn't seem like a good deal anymore. It's like The American Revolution, only King George is supported by Ivan the Terrible, the rebels are supported by Napoleon, and a bunch of weirdos are showing up from Texas supported by Atilla the Hun and Dracula-literally because a few of them are eating hearts to impress their oil baron donors in Saudi.

Iraq would still have had another Sunni uprising thanks to the actions of Maliki (attacking protesters, not listening to the UN, etc). So, 4 years on from 2010, we would still find ourselves in this situation, fighting ISIS in Iraq, Assad in Syria, and militants all over the place.

Seriously, what do these people want the President to do? Use teleporters? ODSTs (Halo game I think)?

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Wonder How The Obama Apologists And Hillary Apologists Will Ever Reconcile cantbeserious Aug 2014 #1
What a charming and thoughtful way to speak of Hillary and/or Obama supporters on DU DonViejo Aug 2014 #3
Anything goes now, apparently LordGlenconner Aug 2014 #11
As a lifetime horseshit apologist BeyondGeography Aug 2014 #5
What are you talking about? ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #8
Clearly There Is Rift - The Universe For Right Leaning Dems Is Now Unstable cantbeserious Aug 2014 #10
Yeah ... Okay. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #12
Those Dems and many on DU aren't right leaning. They quit leaning long ago. A Simple Game Aug 2014 #23
I don't care how much hell you raise, I am going to vote for Hillary. stonecutter357 Aug 2014 #24
Voting For A War Apologist Is Your Privelage cantbeserious Aug 2014 #25
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Glad You Are So Amused cantbeserious Aug 2014 #27
I wish he'd call horseshit more often and more publicly. postulater Aug 2014 #2
^^^ That! ^^^ KeepItReal Aug 2014 #4
When we did send arms to the rebels, the R's complained the opposite frazzled Aug 2014 #6
That seems to be an apt description to me. n/t Unvanguard Aug 2014 #7
rebel arms mehrrh Aug 2014 #9
The Nobel Peace Prize payed forward HoosierCowboy Aug 2014 #13
I can get down with that DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #20
Hopefully, he cc:d his comment to Hillary in her hawk's nest. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #14
The Prexy can do no right. riqster Aug 2014 #15
"carefully vet, train, and equip early on a core group" - Hillary Clinton DRoseDARs Aug 2014 #16
That would have been more than very, very risky. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #21
Nobody, not even Obama, can predict which rebels are "moderate" in these conflicts anymore riderinthestorm Aug 2014 #17
Those arms would eventually have ended up in the possession of tblue37 Aug 2014 #18
Dammed if you do. Dammed if you don't. agentS Aug 2014 #19
Republicans LOVE the idea of "Rebels"... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #22
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