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Damansarajaya

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42. Yes, and when my dog stands next to the door and whines, I know she

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Wed Aug 13, 2014, 04:44 PM

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Koko The Gorilla Mourning The Loss Of Robin Williams [View all] Fearless Aug 2014 OP

wow. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2014 #1

^ eom littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #7

Here is the video of their meeting. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #2

That was rich and sad at the same time. Thank you for sharing. lonestarnot Aug 2014 #5

That is a wonderful video. A treasure. madfloridian Aug 2014 #9

Thank you BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #11

unconditional koko love hopemountain Aug 2014 #13

I'm so glad that he got to do that. dawg Aug 2014 #66

I agree, dawg, I'm happy Robin got to do it as well. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #67

And they only met once? lonestarnot Aug 2014 #3

I believe it was more than once Fearless Aug 2014 #4

I wonder which of his movies she watched. lonestarnot Aug 2014 #6

Cool question. nt littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #8

I learned the answer to that on CNN this morning! pinboy3niner Aug 2014 #30

I challenge anyone to watch 'Awakenings' all the way to the end Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2014 #60

If in fact she really understood, then it was unnecessarily cruel tblue37 Aug 2014 #10

I trust that the expert primatologists take good care of Koko Fearless Aug 2014 #12

If she is mourning someone who is part of her life in a real sense, tblue37 Aug 2014 #14

So none of us should have been told either? Live and Learn Aug 2014 #16

Nonsense. KoKo understands quite a lot--but tblue37 Aug 2014 #17

I don't think you can prompt anyone to feel sad about something that has Live and Learn Aug 2014 #19

Not so. Small children are easily prompted to be sad without understanding tblue37 Aug 2014 #21

Then, we have had different experiences with small children and animals. Live and Learn Aug 2014 #23

No, they respond to the adult's expression of emotion about the death, not to the death itself. tblue37 Aug 2014 #24

LOL We have had seriously different experiences. Live and Learn Aug 2014 #25

It sounded like... TDale313 Aug 2014 #15

That was my first thought too. There was no reason to tell her, no point in it. cui bono Aug 2014 #20

Please. It is best to be told right away. Allow her to grieve. alphafemale Aug 2014 #26

KoKo happened to be present when they first heard the news magical thyme Aug 2014 #28

I thought the same thing. dilby Aug 2014 #46

she was likely reacted to the humans being sad Adenoid_Hynkel Aug 2014 #18

we dont really know MFM008 Aug 2014 #22

Koko understands a lot. She expresses herself a lot too. Autumn Aug 2014 #48

Koko understands, she cried and had grief over the death of her very much loved cat Sunlei Aug 2014 #27

This is interesting and important . . . the interaction Damansarajaya Aug 2014 #29

How long ago did you study linguistics? BlindTiresias Aug 2014 #31

Hehe, bs. nt Damansarajaya Aug 2014 #32

?? BlindTiresias Aug 2014 #33

"He who proposes, must prove." Damansarajaya Aug 2014 #34

On the other hand, by Chomsky's own standard we are not so unique. BlindTiresias Aug 2014 #35

Actually, I was wrong. This isn't interesting. Damansarajaya Aug 2014 #37

Kind of misrepresenting the paper BlindTiresias Aug 2014 #39

If they possessed it (ability to understand syntax), they would use it. Damansarajaya Aug 2014 #40

This would also be language. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #36

That's not the way linguists define language. Damansarajaya Aug 2014 #38

Perhaps, but the dictionary defines language that way. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #41

Yes, and when my dog stands next to the door and whines, I know she Damansarajaya Aug 2014 #42

Because your dog trained you to understand that, not he other way around. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #43

Whines louder and paws the door. Damansarajaya Aug 2014 #44

Whining louder, pawing the door and barking to get your attention is putting "emphasis" Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #45

The fact that it's equally understandable to Damansarajaya Aug 2014 #47

It is the language of animals, humans are animals, thus it crosses species lines, furthermore Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #49

Well, no, it doesn't. Damansarajaya Aug 2014 #53

No matter which progression it comes in, a different method of animal language is used to get Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #56

I've exhausted all the arguments I can think of. Damansarajaya Aug 2014 #58

The difference being you're using a very narrow definition of the world "language" Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #59

I'm using the "narrow definition" of people who spend Damansarajaya Aug 2014 #61

Then you and they are using a very narrow definition of the word language, I'm using the dictionary Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #64

Actually, dogs have to be trained to respond to human voice commands. Damansarajaya Aug 2014 #62

I will bet if you yell at another person in a hateful voice "I love you" they Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #65

Not everyone understands sign language so it's normal someone would Autumn Aug 2014 #50

Irrelevant. It's not the sign language that's the problem. Damansarajaya Aug 2014 #54

For every wonderful story I read, a number will, more often than not piss on it. LanternWaste Aug 2014 #51

True, all of it catrose Aug 2014 #55

Poor Koko. :( ladyVet Aug 2014 #52

oh my goodness. in tears here. niyad Aug 2014 #57

Kindred spirits. AtomicKitten Aug 2014 #63