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tkmorris

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17. There is so much left out here

Thu Aug 14, 2014, 03:52 PM

Aug 2014

Why you made it a poll I have no idea.

The VAST majority of "orders" police officers give out are unnecessary. For example, ordering people to not take video or pictures.

I was in the Navy, so I didn't have a Drill Sergeant, but if my Company Commander had ordered us to wash his truck or to post up at a closed door while he had a one-on-one with a female recruit (and do ignore the screams) you might have a point. Or let's just say he routinely gave orders that were malicious, malevolent, or otherwise served only to reinforce his ego. That would have been a serious problem. Fortunately the Navy went to great pains to ensure that such things did NOT happen, and held those given that kind of authority to a much higher standard than everyone else.

I only wish the Police did the same.

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"When the cops give you an order, it's like your drill sergeant giving you an order. [View all] underpants Aug 2014 OP

I don't have a drill sergeant WestCoastLib Aug 2014 #1

Damn skippy. n/t reflection Aug 2014 #22

The difference being that a drill sergeant hifiguy Aug 2014 #2

I've never obeyed illegal orders. hobbit709 Aug 2014 #3

Big difference. The drill sergeant is your boss. Live and Learn Aug 2014 #4

It depends on the order. Bonx Aug 2014 #5

Drug-addled gasbag. nt RandiFan1290 Aug 2014 #6

Yes underpants Aug 2014 #15

That statement right there confirms everything nasty about the militarization of the police. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #7

I posted this because it is the basic theme from the powers that be underpants Aug 2014 #30

How many people other than the military have drill sergeants? Autumn Aug 2014 #8

A private citizen is just that...a private citizen. Skidmore Aug 2014 #9

I don't recall enlisting. Codeine Aug 2014 #10

My drill sergeants were there to train me. upaloopa Aug 2014 #11

did we all sign up to be in the military suddenly? if a cop asks to search my person La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2014 #12

Where did this come from? TIA. SammyWinstonJack Aug 2014 #13

- underpants Aug 2014 #16

Thanks pinboy3niner Aug 2014 #24

Yeah...figures. SammyWinstonJack Aug 2014 #34

Oh right. That career noncom and expert on all things martial. sarge43 Aug 2014 #56

If he orders you to do something illegal, hurt another, or even hurt yourself, would you do it? hlthe2b Aug 2014 #14

There is so much left out here tkmorris Aug 2014 #17

I actually like the poll. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #33

Great post underpants Aug 2014 #35

I was never in the military, so I've never had a drill sergeant. justiceischeap Aug 2014 #18

Any order that violates the Constitution should not be followed. To do so legitimizes what is sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #19

Most people have never been to boot camp gollygee Aug 2014 #20

And if they say, "Stand on your head..." kentuck Aug 2014 #21

Unless they call me 'maggot' and ask if I miss my Mommy it's just not the same pinboy3niner Aug 2014 #23

No underpants Aug 2014 #26

Or have you demostrate for the enlightenment of the other recruits sarge43 Aug 2014 #57

And we have our thread winner. Brigid Aug 2014 #60

Pretty much how I deal the police. Time enough to lodge a complaint if needed. aikoaiko Aug 2014 #25

I don't have a drill sargent, and I don't call anyone 'sir' deminks Aug 2014 #27

A DI or DS is in a position of authority sarisataka Aug 2014 #28

A lawful order should be obeyed, an unlawful one shouldn't herding cats Aug 2014 #29

LOL, no. n/t MadrasT Aug 2014 #31

And if they twist your arm and it hurts, don't wince. That's "resistance" n/t arcane1 Aug 2014 #32

I missed the part of "Full Metal Jacket" where the drill sergeant kills the sub-par recruits DefenseLawyer Aug 2014 #36

I'm not in the fucking army. I'm a US citizen. Lex Aug 2014 #37

If a soldier disobeyed the order, would the drill sergeant shoot him? Cleita Aug 2014 #38

Good point Cleita! kentuck Aug 2014 #49

"The cops know the journalists are looking to make them look bad." Inkfreak Aug 2014 #39

Are you shitting me? If I wanted one of those I'd have said yes to the thousands of requests TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #40

There's no part of my life where I take orders. Iggo Aug 2014 #41

Now do you see where open carry might have some utility once in a while? derby378 Aug 2014 #42

Maybe you should enclose the comment in quotation marks--for clarity. nt tblue37 Aug 2014 #43

I don't like the construction of your question DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #44

Negative. cui bono Aug 2014 #45

No not my quote underpants Aug 2014 #47

Okay, that explains why it took a few reads to even get the point of the OP. cui bono Aug 2014 #50

Police are not drill sergants. They aren't hired to "educate" us to survive war as an unit. haele Aug 2014 #46

Cops giving an order to people who fear them. HuckleB Aug 2014 #48

If you are not doing anything illegal, then the cops have no business giving you orders. Salviati Aug 2014 #51

No ohnoyoudidnt Aug 2014 #52

Never had a drill sergeant liberal N proud Aug 2014 #53

Anyone with a gun, wearing a badge or not, has to be taken as a serious threat to life and limb. Orsino Aug 2014 #54

People act like People One_Life_To_Give Aug 2014 #55

WTH?! "Cops" are not the rulers of the land; they cannot "give orders" to the law-abiding citizenry. WinkyDink Aug 2014 #58

Since when do drills kill you if you disobey orders? Rex Aug 2014 #59

My son took the oath of office jen63 Aug 2014 #61