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jberryhill

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85. Ummm....

Fri Aug 15, 2014, 07:55 PM

Aug 2014

That would require her committing one for which she would be removed from office, I would imagine.

I think you are missing the larger point here.

Get a roomful of people in Texas in which not a single one would be persuaded that "Getting rid of her was the right thing to do."

"Justification" is what is called an affirmative defense. It is "yeah, I stole the medicine, but there was a sick person who would die if they didn't get it".

Again, if you are trying to persuade me that what Perry did was an abuse of power, I don't know why you are trying. I agree with that.

However, I am not as much a psychic predictor of Texas juries as you are, so I bow to your superior ability in that regard.

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BREAKING: Texas Grand Jury Indicts Governor Rick Perry [View all] blogslut Aug 2014 OP

And the fireworks for another run at POTUS fizzles Sheepshank Aug 2014 #1

Well, yes it is too bad! delete_bush Aug 2014 #58

Proving, at the same time, that a grand jury will indict a ham pinboy3niner Aug 2014 #72

sandwich Enthusiast Aug 2014 #129

why is this the first I'm hearing of this? annabanana Aug 2014 #2

it just happened blogslut Aug 2014 #6

It just happened. Give it an hour or so Mrdrboi Aug 2014 #16

That's what I was thinking too. NuclearDem Aug 2014 #25

I posted a thread back in April. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #59

Jeb Bush!!! billhicks76 Aug 2014 #146

I hadn't heard about it either. Stellar Aug 2014 #70

Talk about a Friday News Dump. Laelth Aug 2014 #103

I wonder what style of glasses can make one appear more innocent? CBGLuthier Aug 2014 #3

now that's a good one CatWoman Aug 2014 #5

hee . . . . n/t annabanana Aug 2014 #7

DUzy! n/t winter is coming Aug 2014 #8

Three kinds Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #24

and that's your topper CBGLuthier Aug 2014 #28

Looky there! A DUzy inside a DUzy! nt ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #34

Haha hibbing Aug 2014 #44

Does that make it a RECURzy? mindwalker_i Aug 2014 #54

Or a DUet-zy? calimary Aug 2014 #77

A DUDUzy. nt valerief Aug 2014 #132

another one! DUDUDUzy BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2014 #145

Thatsa double-DUzy. BumRushDaShow Aug 2014 #50

oops! green917 Aug 2014 #128

Magic Morman glasses. pangaia Aug 2014 #45

While he can always call out the National Guard Botany Aug 2014 #130

Oh my god Robbins Aug 2014 #4

Ironic since Democrats have no power at the state level. Avalux Aug 2014 #18

I agree Robbins Aug 2014 #21

And, like Delay, he'll probably never be punished. FiveGoodMen Aug 2014 #29

great, how soon until he is impeached? Takket Aug 2014 #9

He is being asked to resign immediately. nt Avalux Aug 2014 #19

He be safe to do so... MrMickeysMom Aug 2014 #97

Perry's decision had nothing to do with Davis. Avalux Aug 2014 #99

HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2014 #10

This is news to me. Thanks for posting. LanternWaste Aug 2014 #11

aww, shucks. blogslut Aug 2014 #14

That's nice ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2014 #12

I am no fan of Perry dsc Aug 2014 #13

It was the witholding of funds that was the crime blogslut Aug 2014 #15

they are claiming that him doing that to get her to resign is the crime dsc Aug 2014 #17

DWI edhopper Aug 2014 #20

It was way more than DWI dsc Aug 2014 #22

I don't think you're quite grasping the issue. liberalhistorian Aug 2014 #27

I can't imagine a Texas jury convicting him of this dsc Aug 2014 #40

It's Travis county and yes it can happen there. nt TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #61

I will say this dsc Aug 2014 #69

I've been following the story for over a year starting in January 2013. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #78

It won't be tried in Travis County... S_B_Jackson Aug 2014 #122

It's a special prosecutor from San Antonio presenting the case and he was appointed by the elder TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #125

An important detail - Avalux Aug 2014 #80

it is unlikely thath Niceguy1 Aug 2014 #106

How would that tape come into Perry's trial? nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #134

Targeting a woman is a hate crime. DhhD Aug 2014 #137

And? nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #148

It is very relevant to the defense here dsc Aug 2014 #139

Exactly...once the facts are stipulated, how does the tape come in? msanthrope Aug 2014 #147

Because juries love technicalities jberryhill Aug 2014 #42

If he had only harmed the DA, maybe. jeff47 Aug 2014 #47

Ah, but you must apply Gaza-logic jberryhill Aug 2014 #57

And if there was no other mechanism to remove her from office, that might work. jeff47 Aug 2014 #67

J U R Y jberryhill Aug 2014 #71

Not really that hard. jeff47 Aug 2014 #73

What are these other options jberryhill Aug 2014 #74

Convict her of a crime that disqualifies her from office jeff47 Aug 2014 #79

Ummm.... jberryhill Aug 2014 #85

No, I'm not missing the point jeff47 Aug 2014 #87

"people in Texas will think" jberryhill Aug 2014 #89

And the reason you can tell you're wrong is politicians get convicted quite frequently. jeff47 Aug 2014 #92

And DeLay's justification defense was.....? jberryhill Aug 2014 #93

Ah yes, time to claim it's different jeff47 Aug 2014 #144

They tried that Mr Pettibone Aug 2014 #110

They tried one thing. There are others. jeff47 Aug 2014 #142

And it still was not enough to disqualify her from the job. jeff47 Aug 2014 #33

Let me simplify this for you.... Logical Aug 2014 #23

that kind of thing happens often dsc Aug 2014 #30

Congress is not subject to Texas law. Perry is. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2014 #35

This is Texas where it is illegal! Are you a friend of perry? nt Logical Aug 2014 #41

No I am not dsc Aug 2014 #43

If he'd only harmed the DA, you'd have a point. jeff47 Aug 2014 #46

I guess we're all prophesying at this point. Some with more absolutism than others. LanternWaste Aug 2014 #81

Vetoing a bill and withholding funds are two different things entirely Hippo_Tron Aug 2014 #118

That is not the mechanism for removing a DA. Ash_F Aug 2014 #31

Changing out a DA is the job of the voters. DhhD Aug 2014 #136

Isn't that the definition of coercion? herding cats Aug 2014 #26

Had he used any other power than the veto, I'd agree with you Hippo_Tron Aug 2014 #117

I have to agree somewhat. Texasgal Aug 2014 #68

The woman is not on trial. there are associate assistant DAs in the office. DhhD Aug 2014 #138

k&r... spanone Aug 2014 #32

Seigelman is still in jail edhopper Aug 2014 #36

Probably for Nothing Criminal...but, here we go....n/t KoKo Aug 2014 #56

To be fair, Perry is stupid. randome Aug 2014 #37

This is providential timing for Sen. Wendy Davis. LanternWaste Aug 2014 #38

Oops jberryhill Aug 2014 #39

oops napkinz Aug 2014 #48

AWESOME!! Suburban Warrior Aug 2014 #49

Make way for Jebthro! Octafish Aug 2014 #51

K&R BumRushDaShow Aug 2014 #52

This is huge malaise Aug 2014 #53

hey, Texas!! NJCher Aug 2014 #55

I'm giggling like a little girl. Avalux Aug 2014 #60

Me too - and I'm not even female aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #62

Me too Mr Pettibone Aug 2014 #112

Perry has been bullying people around for years. He thinks he is slick. Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #63

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Exactly! TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #104

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"Like many schemes, it started with vodka" riverwalker Aug 2014 #76

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sweeeeeeeeeeet! nt Cryptoad Aug 2014 #83

Wow! El Shaman Aug 2014 #84

Perp walk that son of a bitch! geomon666 Aug 2014 #86

Dammit, I had Christie in the "governor indicted first" pool. rurallib Aug 2014 #88

This seems pretty similar to Chris Christie's bridge construction/payback Chemisse Aug 2014 #90

whoa- really? Marrah_G Aug 2014 #91

So the DA who he wants to resign, and is withholding funds from, is also the DA who indicted him? Calista241 Aug 2014 #94

Incorrect blogslut Aug 2014 #95

I'll second that. Avalux Aug 2014 #100

Grand jury indicts, not DA. JaneyVee Aug 2014 #107

ham sandwich, yada, yada, yada... AngryAmish Aug 2014 #131

Best Friday night news dump ever! femmocrat Aug 2014 #96

He can figure out the third branch he wants to cut in prison. Initech Aug 2014 #98

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K&R ReRe Aug 2014 #119

Governor Perry, meet Governor McDonnel... nt Raine1967 Aug 2014 #120

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Oops. merrily Aug 2014 #141

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