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freshwest

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40. I see a few problems greater than the technical matter.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 12:33 AM
Aug 2014

First:

The Israelis should not have been bulldozing those homes. Period. I remember seeing a lot of that in the news. The people who owned the homes were resisting. It was an act of theft.

Second:

Corrie was killed during an organized protest and not just wandering about. Many people were there and no doubt screaming bloody murder. There was no way the dozer operator could ignore what was going on as they were in his view, even if Corrie wasn't. BTW, I don't go along with the St. Corrie or Corrie the martyr crowd. There are risks to civil disobediance, and death is one of them.

Third:

Consider the First point, it was a wrongful action and unncessary. It does not matter what ideology was added to the act. Then with the Second, which evolved from the First, the incident itself. Dozing those homes was wrong, and running over her exacerbated that and was not acting right.

Thus, I see your POV on this to be faulty, as I've worked in construction around heavy equipment, much larger than you use as an example to prove that it was accidental. No one would get run over that because people would watching and the operator would see them. There were people about when Corrie was killed.

That being said, this may simply be a way to say that the Israelis are not the horrible. almost supernatural evildoers they are made out to be. Which is a reasonable thing to say, but very hard to say right now.

FWIW, I see Israel as a nation that has been at war all its existence. And the Arabs there have not run from war, they just haven't won yet.

And I believe they need to have one state with equality. Call a portion of the land by another name, and these guys will still be fighting each other. I see it as a civil war that has lasted over half a century, with both sides unwilling to get in.

There will never be two separate states. They will fight until one group rules all the land.

Just sayin'

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And not surprisingly. sendero Aug 2014 #1
Yes, because of changes over the years eridani Aug 2014 #2
Somewhere around the time.. sendero Aug 2014 #4
+1 nt dorkzilla Aug 2014 #9
Also, Israel's attack on the U.S.S. Liberty Hoppy Aug 2014 #10
I bumped into a guy with a USS Liberty hat last week! johnnyreb Aug 2014 #19
More like she got so close to that bulldozer, that they could not see her. meti57b Aug 2014 #13
Sure.. sendero Aug 2014 #17
The driver/operator cannot see what is immediately in front of it....... meti57b Aug 2014 #20
Of course it becomes "standing too close" arikara Aug 2014 #32
Here is a diagram of a bulldozer's blindspot WatermelonRat Aug 2014 #35
You know.. sendero Aug 2014 #36
Well, at least the apologists didn't call Rachel Corrie a "stupid bitch" this time U4ikLefty Aug 2014 #39
Why do those remind me of this...? mikeysnot Aug 2014 #18
I see a few problems greater than the technical matter. freshwest Aug 2014 #40
Rachel Corrie, yes. Totally senseless act of murder. closeupready Aug 2014 #29
+1 Scuba Aug 2014 #3
Agreed. doxydad Aug 2014 #5
It *wasn't* a conflict for thousands of years Recursion Aug 2014 #16
No cares given. doxydad Aug 2014 #21
Poor missing Gen-X... :D Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #6
Somewhere in between eridani Aug 2014 #7
Pretty much Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #8
Good points . . . JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #15
Indeed Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #23
Something else JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #24
The cynicism and distrust comes from powerlessness jeff47 Aug 2014 #27
Excellent point on the tuitions JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #28
Boomers and Millenials are big demographic lumps eridani Aug 2014 #37
The theme of this thread, that support for Israel may age out, dismisses the $$$ influence of Hoppy Aug 2014 #11
YEP Cosmocat Aug 2014 #12
Campaign contributions (bribes) = corporate Representatives! Dustlawyer Aug 2014 #14
yep Cosmocat Aug 2014 #26
The Map that changed several of my friends' minds about Israel being the innocent victim: KittyWampus Aug 2014 #22
propaganda changed your friends minds Mosby Aug 2014 #25
it's simple riverwalker Aug 2014 #30
I've lost all sympathy for Israel. Does that make me a millenial? FiveGoodMen Aug 2014 #31
I was going to post on this very subject myself - hedgehog Aug 2014 #33
The difference between myself at age 73 and milllennials and boomers on this issue is that when I jwirr Aug 2014 #34
I've got a simpler explanation: TrollBuster9090 Aug 2014 #38
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