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Jack Rabbit

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63. It's time we realized that going to war vs. doing nothing is a false dichotomy
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 04:54 PM
Aug 2014

Is there something the US can do? That's the question we should be asking.

For anyone who says let's go to war and liberate Iraq, I will remind you that the US has already tried that and it didn't work out too well. In fact, the present situation was brought about by the blunders of the Frat Boy and the Big Dick. Leaving Saddam in power in 2002/03 wouldn't have been a pleasant choice, but it's looking better all the time.

Nothing significant has changed in the decision making apparatus in the US since Bush and Cheney seized power in 2000. They were there to do the bidding of the corporate oligarchy, and foreign policy makers are still serving the interests of the corporate oligarchy. The plain truth is that the US never had a chance of achieving its goals in Iraq for more than a short period. I'm not talking about the goals of democratizing Iraq; the idea idea that an administration that came to power through election fraud really wanted to democratize anything is pretty far fetched. No, I mean the other goal, the one that actually was achieved for a short time: putting Iraq's oil fields in the hands of western corporations. The Bushies liberated the Iraqi people, alright -- from their mineral rights.

Classic colonialism, although just as evil as the slave trade, worked much better than neocolonialism does. Under classic colonialism, a poor nation's natural resources are put in the hands of wealthy corporations headquartered in the parent country, the parent country's troops, which have already been used to violently put the poor country's natural resources in the hands of the parent country's corporations and to overthrow whatever native political authority existed, thus making the poor country a colony of the rich one, are put on permanent occupation duty to enforce the colonial social-economic order. Of course, there is a colonial administration headed by appointees of the government of the parent nation. Thus, classic colonialism features a nation saddled with foreign economic development, protected by foreign troops taking orders from a foreign government.

Neocolonialism works pretty much the same way, except the troops are native and so is the government, but they are still expected to protect the property rights of foreign developers, who are still collecting profits from the extraction, production and sale of the colony's natural resources. This is quite a bit less efficient than classic colonialism. For one thing, the native politicians running the government are of necessity a bunch of crooks. They may be natives, but they are expected to resolve problems in favor of the colonial interests, i.e., foreign corporations, just as were the foreign bureaucrats appointed to govern the colony by the government of the parent colonial power in the days of classic colonialism. Since these native governors must be chosen from not a broad segment of the population, but from a limited number of natives willing to sell their country down the river for cash in the form of "foreign aid" from which they take a piece of the action for themselves, the talent pool is also limited and thus the president of the country is often not only crooked but incompetent as well. That's when a military coup comes in handy. If you thought the colonial president was bad, wait until you see the junta in charge. He's not only corrupt and incompetent, but brutal as well. In order to keep the people in line and not setting up their government, kicking the foreign developers out and nationalizing natural resources, the junta will fire live rounds into a crowd now and then to remind them who's boss.

However, if the government has no support among the native people at all, then we have a power vacuum, and you know what they say: nature abhors a vacuum. The vacuum gets filled by whoever of whatever is available. In the worst cases, this may be a bunch of local warlords, each covering a small bit of territory. Take Somalia, for example. Or Gaza. Or China in the early 1920s.

The present chaos in Iraq is a result of not allowing the people to decide for themselves who shall govern them, but instead insisting on a government that is compliant with the desires and needs of another country's elite. I rather doubt that the Islamic State radicals will be able to enforce their will long before their brutality erodes their support. That may be the opportunity for which the US war party is waiting. And that history will repeat itself until the US and its oligarchs finally learn that they're part of the problem and can be no part of any positive solution.

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OMG. No words for such an atrocity. nt brer cat Aug 2014 #1
Extremists doesnt really work here. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #2
Brainwashed Western vandals. nt CJCRANE Aug 2014 #3
Game of Thrones shit in 2014. maced666 Aug 2014 #4
That's a good analogy...in about three different ways. nt CJCRANE Aug 2014 #7
Because ISIS is doing what we want them to do Scootaloo Aug 2014 #55
WOW-were the 300 slave women... catnhatnh Aug 2014 #5
Yes. It's the exact same thing as the incubators story. NuclearDem Aug 2014 #14
They are evil but they also experts in terror via social media CJCRANE Aug 2014 #23
My bullshit meter gets pinned Warpy Aug 2014 #56
And the hits just keep on comin' Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #6
Tweeting Western jihadis who apparently also like Nutella and Robin Williams movies CJCRANE Aug 2014 #9
only 11 retweets Enrique Aug 2014 #26
Hundreds of thousands have died since Bush invaded. Yet no accountability. grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #8
Baloney. Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2014 #10
What's baloney? DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #11
Reports via social media and "unconfirmed sources" are automatically suspect. CJCRANE Aug 2014 #17
Yes. LuvNewcastle Aug 2014 #39
They want us to go in and fix this mess. Where are the other so called good guys in the ME? Surely jwirr Aug 2014 #12
I agree. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #13
We contributed to this mess therefore we bear some of the responsibility. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #15
I agree but no one wants us over there. That makes it almost impossible for us to fix it. The jwirr Aug 2014 #21
Obviously fabricated. NuclearDem Aug 2014 #16
Some ISIS pics were found to be fake. A big part of "terror" is deception. CJCRANE Aug 2014 #18
Yes, I know. NuclearDem Aug 2014 #22
I would keep an open mind on this story. Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #19
Ugly stuff. 99Forever Aug 2014 #20
Even more ugly stuff..(warning) Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #24
Got your plane ticket yet? 99Forever Aug 2014 #28
I feel like the MSM and social media flicked a switch CJCRANE Aug 2014 #29
I completely agree. 99Forever Aug 2014 #31
shock doctrine/ disaster capitalism n/t librechik Aug 2014 #60
If the stories of the atrocities are true I would go... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #30
Good for you. 99Forever Aug 2014 #32
Would you go into Syria CJCRANE Aug 2014 #33
"I want" Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #36
Perhaps you should explain yourself better then. 99Forever Aug 2014 #38
I have a problem with atrocities and war crimes. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #41
Then what is your point posting this stuff? 99Forever Aug 2014 #42
It SHOULD inflame anger...and disgust....and outrage. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #43
Then it did what you intended. 99Forever Aug 2014 #44
. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #45
then what? GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #47
Maybe Turkey, Egypt and Jordan... Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #50
You have a VERY SELECTIVE problem with atrocities and war crimes tkmorris Aug 2014 #53
Bullshit, you have no problem with Israel's war crimes. U4ikLefty Aug 2014 #57
The human race is imploding. Baitball Blogger Aug 2014 #25
The ISIS people are outnumbered. They are mostly non-Iraqis CJCRANE Aug 2014 #27
It really is. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #34
That's what the neocons want. Just like the Christians in Central Africa and Uganda. CJCRANE Aug 2014 #35
I have stated we should stay out. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #37
I mentioned the situation in Syria and Iraq here before the MSM cottoned on. CJCRANE Aug 2014 #40
Thousands of women, accused of sorcery, tortured and executed n2doc Aug 2014 #46
The Mirror is a UK tabloid, though LittleBlue Aug 2014 #48
This refers to the town of Sinjar, which ISIS hit a couple of weeks ago. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #49
OMG !! Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #51
If true, they must be stopped. nt ladjf Aug 2014 #52
See...everyone says that... Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #54
If those allegations are true, they have ladjf Aug 2014 #62
Maybe true? kentuck Aug 2014 #58
As far as I'm concerned, this should be a UN Blue Helmet job. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #59
OMG. Makes my blood boil. lonestarnot Aug 2014 #61
It's time we realized that going to war vs. doing nothing is a false dichotomy Jack Rabbit Aug 2014 #63
Evaluate the evidence and base policy on that, not on fear or emotion. We're not republicans. pampango Aug 2014 #64
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