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Hoyt

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1. The fact they would move to another country for more pay, tells me

Sat Aug 16, 2014, 04:00 PM

Aug 2014

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they aren't much different from insurance companies. Part of our problem here is that providers are greedy too. They have worked against payment reform so that if they do more tests, more diagnostic procedures, etc., they make a lot more money (and we pay more in coverage, rather through insurance premiums or taxes).

They are only part of problem-- vendors, administrative people, insurers, and everyone else have their greedy hands in the health system. Even patients aren't always willing to compromise for the system'a good. They do in Canada.

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Physicians move from The USA to Canada for better life [View all] truedelphi Aug 2014 OP

The fact they would move to another country for more pay, tells me Hoyt Aug 2014 #1

So tell me this, Hoyt... Do you hold down a job? truedelphi Aug 2014 #8

Do you even know what you are talking about? For instance, Malpractice runs about 5% of revenue. Hoyt Aug 2014 #12

Depends surgeons are high malpractice obgyn etc.too lunasun Aug 2014 #27

A lot of folks have supplemental insurance that covers deductibles, etc. Hoyt Aug 2014 #28

A lot of doctors might be saddled with high Student Loan debt. Ilsa Aug 2014 #11

Most docs could discharge student loans by spending a few years in a rural or inner city area. But, Hoyt Aug 2014 #13

I do not AT ALL get where you are coming from, Hoyt. This discussion truedelphi Aug 2014 #16

Many continued to see Medicare too. You know why, they aren't as greedy as Hoyt Aug 2014 #22

Their spouses' careers come into play, too, on these Ilsa Aug 2014 #21

Like the doc who has an engineer wife can't afford to pay their loan back. Hoyt Aug 2014 #23

40 year nurse practitioner here. In pediatrics, we most... 3catwoman3 Aug 2014 #33

Some do expand their practices, and get paid more as well. Hoyt Aug 2014 #35

If a RWNJ... 3catwoman3 Aug 2014 #38

I'd drive you. Unfortunately, a lot of physicians are RWNJs. Hoyt Aug 2014 #39

I am the only nurse practitioner... 3catwoman3 Aug 2014 #42

Where I live, most of our Republican Congressmen are physicians in the Rob Paul Hoyt Aug 2014 #43

Agreed. Too much turf-protecting. Ilsa Aug 2014 #45

I don't believe it. WinkyDink Aug 2014 #2

Sounds like it's mainly familty physicians, not specialists. FP's are paid the least in the US. pampango Aug 2014 #3

And before Obamacare, they always got paid. Right? n/t justgamma Aug 2014 #4

Well, before Obama care was passed, many of us hoped for true reform. truedelphi Aug 2014 #17

Many doctors are opting out of these programs, mostly because of greed. Hoyt Aug 2014 #24

Twenty years ago--1994--my husband, a psychiatrist-- mnhtnbb Aug 2014 #5

THE time period you mention is exactly the time truedelphi Aug 2014 #18

k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. n/t Laelth Aug 2014 #6

Doesn't Canada have a nationalized healthcare system? peabody Aug 2014 #7

Canada is tough to nail down with any one label. Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2014 #10

My doctor in Canada is originally from the US too Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2014 #9

That I can fully understand. Don't think I'd want to be collecting from sick people. Hoyt Aug 2014 #14

That is the issue now with the high deductible insurances folks are using lunasun Aug 2014 #30

If the vast majority of docs come out for single payer, we'd have it. Hoyt Aug 2014 #40

And in Canada many are still private practices that get reimbursed lunasun Aug 2014 #44

And the situation with deductibles is very much over the top. truedelphi Aug 2014 #46

You should always ask for work to be in network although you may have to travel or wait lunasun Aug 2014 #47

Draft dodgers figured this out back in the 60's. L0oniX Aug 2014 #15

Yes, they did. And although most were glad when they were absolved of their truedelphi Aug 2014 #19

Did you go to VietNam? WinkyDink Aug 2014 #41

This was predicted by both sides of the argument on ACA, egduj Aug 2014 #20

The relative small population will limit the need, unless climate change forces a mass CK_John Aug 2014 #25

“Canada’s per-capita immigration rate remains one of the highest in the world,” lunasun Aug 2014 #31

Is there open carry in Canada? oldandhappy Aug 2014 #26

30% of billings end up unpaid because billings are a (cruel) joke unblock Aug 2014 #29

I once saw an orthopedic surgeon who "charged" $50;000 for a procedure Medicare allows $500. Hoyt Aug 2014 #36

My Dr. is dropping all insurance coverage alltogether michreject Aug 2014 #32

The ultimate in greed and shirking the poor for the well to do. Hoyt Aug 2014 #37

Blaming Obama for a decades-old phenomenon? Bullshit. riqster Aug 2014 #34