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In reply to the discussion: Why does Belle Knox consider herself a feminist? [View all]BainsBane
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I'm not the one running around saying people aren't real feminists if they disagree with me. And I'm not a fucking wave. I'm a person. You have no right to label me anything.
Point four is patently false. Demonstrably false. A study of 150 countries that has been posted around here multiple times looks at not just countries where it has been legalized. It's been posted so many times I'm sick of reposting.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5349821
I'm also tired of the middle- and upper-middle class plotting how to reintroduce prostitution back to my neighborhood while keeping their suburban enclaves where the Johns actually live pristine. Prostitution laws are local. Work to legalize it where you live. Put it next to your daughters schools and let them grow up being preyed upon by adult men like my sister and I did. Leave poor people out of your neoloiberal fantasies.
My reaction to Violet has to do with how she has treated me and her unyielding support for people who made personal attacks on me, including calling me the worst person the poster has ever met. I don't need to cater to anyone who has made clear they see me as a lesser form of human, who regularly talks crap about feminists who have the nerve to disagree with her. I talked to the other poster you mentioned at great length and listened to her, until she decided disagreement entitled her to make personal attacks instead of arguments. I do not dismiss them because of views. I dismiss them because of how they treat me, and that is my right. You don't know the first thing about what is going on here.
I have discussed prostitution until I'm blue in the face. You clearly haven't read any of my posts on the subject, including in this very subthead, so I'm not interested in your free association. And spare me your lectures. When you grow up in an area where prostitution is in fact legalized and have men try to hire you for sex on a regular basis starting at age 9, then you can talk to me about the experience. Until then, leave me out of your capitalist Utopias.
Prostitution laws are state and local. GET IT? You don't need my agreement to legalize it right now. You can go work to legalize it in DC. Naturally it won't go in Georgetown. Those who promote legalization will ensure it's put in a poor area so it leads to further economic deterioration. Go talk to people in those neighborhoods where it proliferates and talk to them about your ideas for legalization. You'll get an earful. Tell the people in Rhondo in St. Paul they should have a strip club back where they finally, after decades of community activism, got it taken down and a library put in its place. Tell them how middle-class and upper-middle class men's right to buy sex means more than their daughters and sons rights to be free from harassment and child rape, and how their desire for a library instead of the sex trade is just so "second wave."
It's all theoretical to people like you. You dismiss real human lives because they don't fit your neoliberal theories. There are real human beings with real experiences with this subject: http://www.democraticunderground.com/125548981 That so many of them are now dead is of course irrelevant compared to the only thing that matters: profit and male entitlement.