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20. I can imagine scenarios
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 04:59 PM
Aug 2014

I can imagine scenarios where a militarized police force might be desirable. Unfortunately, as we've seen with torture (which I absolutely abhor and cannot find a suitable scenario), the option to bring out the big guns soon slides into the obligation to use the big guns. A routine raid or arrest becomes anything but routine when someone in a position of authority on the detail starts imagining the "what could happens": Well, we don't think they're armed, but what if they are? We think there's just a couple of people in the house we're raiding, but what if there's another half dozen we don't know about? I don't want to send my men into a situation where they aren't guaranteed to have superior numbers and firepower. Better get out the armored personnel carrier and the big guns. Just in case. Don't want any widows crying in my office.

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Yes, Police are for people, the military is for the enemy, Militarized police orpupilofnature57 Aug 2014 #1
+1 nt Live and Learn Aug 2014 #3
+10 n/t 99th_Monkey Aug 2014 #14
That's why we have national guards, the ATF, the FBI, the DEA, the BLM, DHS, SWAT teams, etc. arcane1 Aug 2014 #2
I agree, and so does the Constitution . orpupilofnature57 Aug 2014 #6
Yes. Iggo Aug 2014 #4
Yep. bravenak Aug 2014 #5
Yes it is always wrong. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #7
yes. spanone Aug 2014 #8
There was another thread today about The Bobbies you might enjoy reading Electric Monk Aug 2014 #9
Yes. NutmegYankee Aug 2014 #10
The states have their National Guard units... kentuck Aug 2014 #11
"depending on law enforcement's 'target' "? That could very well be you. Demit Aug 2014 #12
Abso-fucking-lutely! ~nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2014 #13
When Godzilla, Zombies, Armies of foreign terrorist attack they will say I told you so. gordianot Aug 2014 #15
Well, the Cliven Bundy incident might have ended very differently MineralMan Aug 2014 #16
When you declare yourself a militia call in the real government sanctioned militia & become regulated gordianot Aug 2014 #18
Yes, there are other tools besides hammers of which there are an abundance. The civilian population TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #17
Yes. Indubitably. hifiguy Aug 2014 #19
I can imagine scenarios gratuitous Aug 2014 #20
ALWAYS! malokvale77 Aug 2014 #21
Yes. Owl Aug 2014 #22
Yes. n/t onyourleft Aug 2014 #23
Yes etherealtruth Aug 2014 #24
Have a SWAT team, just don't call them out for everything NightWatcher Aug 2014 #25
Yes. And Branch Davidians and al-Bundy Militia.... HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #26
The Branch Davidians Boreal Aug 2014 #32
If you need the military call the military, otherwise police need to be police bluestateguy Aug 2014 #27
Yes. not just undesirable, it's insane hardcover Aug 2014 #28
Community police and military are different. If you need the military, call the national guard. oldandhappy Aug 2014 #29
Those situations were Federal AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #30
Yes! stage left Aug 2014 #31
Thank you for your responses Matrosov Aug 2014 #33
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