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HooptieWagon

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5. It could have been ID.

Sun Aug 17, 2014, 07:57 PM

Aug 2014

It could have been he was slightly short of cash. It could have been a lot of things. The video doesn't have audio, so its impossible to know what was being said. And the store manager and clerk haven't issued statements. Whatever... it doesn't appear the store was intending to press charges. It was a customer, not the store, that called the cops. And the store didn't provide video to the police, until forced to by supoena. So whatever the altercation was, the store considered it pretty minor. And executing Brown with his hands up was grossly excessive force, no matter what he may or may not have done.

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re the store video: could the "altercation" have been over ID? [View all] Kali Aug 2014 OP

No Action_Patrol Aug 2014 #1

do you know if there is a transcript or better, a video or recording? Kali Aug 2014 #15

No aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #23

do you have some kind of link to that info? Kali Aug 2014 #28

It's in the body of the DU link posted at response #12 below aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #34

this is kind of what I am thinking too Kali Aug 2014 #38

Enough, already. Johnson admitted the theft. Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #2

Who is Ferguson and why would them admitting theft mean anything? eom MohRokTah Aug 2014 #3

Sorry - Johnson - the other person in the video tape. n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #8

Sigh. VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #6

There are plenty of things to be outraged about, and to question. Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #10

You are aware, I trust, that the question of whether Mr. Brown stole anything or (to VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #12

I am aware that people are spending quite a bit of time Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #18

"There's actually an assertion that he.......assaulted no one." He DID assault the store clerk. WillowTree Aug 2014 #19

Well, excuse me, but if the store clerk was illegally detaining Mr. Brown, his actions VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #21

A store clerk does, as a matter of fact, have the right....... WillowTree Aug 2014 #24

But he had paid for the merchandise. So the 'stop' was not for failure to pay, now was it? VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #27

You don't know that. That's what you think you see on a fuzzy video. WillowTree Aug 2014 #31

"Whitewashing what happened in the store"??? You are aware that it's an open question whether VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #45

No one in this conversation is saying otherwise. I'M not saying otherwise. WillowTree Aug 2014 #46

DU appears as a paragon of reason compared to venues like Yahoo.com. I happened to VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #48

That was classy. No hard feelings whatsoever. WillowTree Aug 2014 #49

Assault is a legal term of art aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #26

You would be incorrect. "Assault" need not include touching. WinkyDink Aug 2014 #33

I agree with that and that's not what I wrote aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #36

Assault statute under the Missouri Penal Code aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #40

I very much agree with this Kali Aug 2014 #17

The theft itself was not aggressive - Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #20

again, do you know of a source Kali Aug 2014 #29

Linked below, in response to your other request. n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #32

Instead of watching the clerk, watch Brown. Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #35

huh, the video I watched a little earlier had more at the tail end of it and Kali Aug 2014 #47

who is ferguson ? JI7 Aug 2014 #7

Sorry - Johnson - the other person in the videotape. n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #9

did he admit theft or just taking the cigars? Kali Aug 2014 #16

Speaking through his attorney - Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #30

What dont you get about the need for a transcript Solomon Aug 2014 #39

I have given you 3 links - Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #41

He shoved the clerk then stepped towards the clerk again to.... Logical Aug 2014 #4

If my little speculation is correct I would feel he was a little more justified in that behavior Kali Aug 2014 #22

It could have been ID. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #5

In a completely separate incident, Darren Wilson murdered Mike Brown. Iggo Aug 2014 #11

I know, and I felt sort of stupid posting this Kali Aug 2014 #13

I hear you. Iggo Aug 2014 #14

If Brown did not step out the door with goods for which he had not exchanged cash or VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #25

Clerk couldn't sell him cigarettes without an ID. LisaL Aug 2014 #44

That's what I noticed right away. Brown was at the checkout counter, but the dialogue R B Garr Aug 2014 #37

That was my first thought. RebelOne Aug 2014 #42

Clerks are supposed to ask for an ID from anyone who looks like they could be under 18. LisaL Aug 2014 #43