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19. Vanishing point …

Mon Aug 18, 2014, 12:57 AM

Aug 2014

Vanishing point …
By Pepe Escobar

First, passenger airliner MH370 vanished from Planet Earth. Then MH370 vanished from the news cycle. First, MH17 was shot down by "Putin's missile" - as Planet Earth was told. Then MH17 vanished from the news cycle.

Where's Baudrillard when we need him? Had he been alive, the dervish of simulacra would have already deconstructed these two Malaysian planes as mirror images; from absolute vanishing to maximum exposure, then vanished again. They might as well have been abducted - and shot - by aliens. Now you seem them, now you don't.

Black boxes, data recorders - everything MH17 is now floating in a black void. The British are taking forever to analyze the data - and if they have already done so, they are not talking. It's as if they were singing, I see a black box / and I want it painted black … void.

The Pentagon, with 20-20 vision over Ukraine, knows what happened. Russian intelligence not only knows what happened but offered a tantalizing glimpse of it in an official presentation, dismissed by the "West". The best technical analyses point not to "Putin's missile" - a BUK - but to a combination of R-60 air-to-air missile and the auto-cannon of an Su-25. ...

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/CEN-02-150814.html

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The Mystery of the Malaysian Airlines Crash Over Ukraine [View all] Karmadillo Aug 2014 OP

"...Ukrainian military personnel do have the required skills." Adsos Letter Aug 2014 #1

Or ex-Soviet military. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #30

No doubt in my mind, and for the very reasons you outlined. n/t Adsos Letter Aug 2014 #37

Didn't you hear the US did it because they were trying to kill Putin davidpdx Aug 2014 #2

I didn't hear that. I did hear the fact that his plane did fly over that area on the way to, or from sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #3

Thank you. Well said. elias49 Aug 2014 #32

OFFS... His flight path was not actually over Ukraine at all. Adrahil Aug 2014 #44

Yup... SidDithers Aug 2014 #4

Oh, I know exactly who you are talking about davidpdx Aug 2014 #6

As opposed to those people who believe what they're told by corporate media, right? Octafish Aug 2014 #11

Truth hurt? davidpdx Aug 2014 #12

Well, we know who did it... zappaman Aug 2014 #13

The BFEE is a handle for War Inc. Octafish Aug 2014 #16

Not me. Octafish Aug 2014 #14

You might go back to post #11 and reread what you wrote in your response to me davidpdx Aug 2014 #15

No. Here's what I'm talking about... Octafish Aug 2014 #17

Yeah. zappaman Aug 2014 #20

Ok, so RT isn't 'corporate media'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #29

Excellent point. Octafish Aug 2014 #31

Reporters are not "corporate media." joshcryer Aug 2014 #38

You're writing to one. Octafish Aug 2014 #49

Ah, I see.... Adrahil Aug 2014 #45

No, that's not what I wrote. Octafish Aug 2014 #50

Thanks for the suto-correct catch... now then, what DID you mean? Adrahil Aug 2014 #52

I object to people who malign those interested in learning and sharing the truth. Octafish Aug 2014 #55

That's great, but.... Adrahil Aug 2014 #56

Right. Lots of people on DU mock 'Conspiracy Theories.' I'm not one of them. Octafish Aug 2014 #60

You mean those who believe anything our Corporate Media tells them? sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #34

Much better to just believe whatever Uncle Pootie would like you to believe, eh? NT Adrahil Aug 2014 #53

Didn't you mean to say 'Uncle Saddam'? sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #54

Ah yes... shift and dodge. Adrahil Aug 2014 #57

Another recycled right wing talking point against what they perceive as 'The dreaded Left'. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #61

I'm not even CLOSE to right wing. Heck, half my extended family won't talk to me.... Adrahil Aug 2014 #63

That was not a "crash". Codeine Aug 2014 #5

on behalf of a Malaysian, non-native English speaker reorg Aug 2014 #7

Right, what's so hard about writing.. "The Mystery of the Malaysian Airlines Shot Down over Cha Aug 2014 #8

If you get a chance to read the article, you'll see there's no attempt to sanitize Karmadillo Aug 2014 #9

In the middle of a freaking war zone? randome Aug 2014 #10

wait, what you call "evidence" reorg Aug 2014 #18

Agree. All we have to go on so far from the war zone is what we see and hear. randome Aug 2014 #22

Well, thank you for agreeing that facts matter reorg Aug 2014 #23

Huh? There are eyewitness accounts. joshcryer Aug 2014 #40

given your astute monitoring of social media accounts reorg Aug 2014 #41

Ad hom. joshcryer Aug 2014 #42

You'd think Occam's razor would have cut them to ribbons by now. nt Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #46

Reporters did that investigation. joshcryer Aug 2014 #39

All of it? Even the data released by the Russians and ignored by the corpse media? And if Karmadillo Aug 2014 #47

Funny how it went out of the news so quickly when some of the lies that were being told were sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #35

Vanishing point … reorg Aug 2014 #19

Yup. This ^^^. elias49 Aug 2014 #33

So...The piece is full of speculation, opinion, and unsourced "facts" Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #21

which speculative, premature conclusion reorg Aug 2014 #25

uh..the one near the bottom under "opinion"? Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #27

He lists three reasons why it should not prematurely ruled out reorg Aug 2014 #28

And I "may" be able to flap my arms and fly to the moon Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #48

sorry, I was reading this article at the same time reorg Aug 2014 #51

Oh, right...another sole unnamed "source" with no corroboration Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #62

"Shoot-down," not "crash." WinkyDink Aug 2014 #24

search "airlines crash"+"mh17" reorg Aug 2014 #26

Disagrees that it was a shoot-down? Thinks "crash" is a synonym? WinkyDink Aug 2014 #58

sigh, disagrees with your labelling reorg Aug 2014 #59

CNN BREAKING NEWS Capt. Obvious Aug 2014 #36

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #43