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kwassa

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79. I was tear-gassed with about 3000 other people. Tear gas burns like hell ...

Mon Aug 18, 2014, 06:46 PM

Aug 2014

Jefferson Airplane at the Dayton Rubber Bowl in the '70s. Incompetent police battling some kids at the top of the stadium released massive amounts of tear gas that drifted down over a third of the audience, who all rushed out of their seats down into the field. One third of the stadium was emptied. The police arrested the band, who had no idea of what was going on, for inciting a riot.

Tear gas burns like hell, and you will do anything to get it off your face. We had a huge thermos full of ice and lemonade, and rubbed the ice cubes over our faces. It worked.

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Ferguson Protesters Did Not "Loot" McDonalds Sunday Night [View all] bigtree Aug 2014 OP

One of the problems with corporations? Trillo Aug 2014 #1

sorry for the lateness of this to the post, but this may be important to the story bigtree Aug 2014 #42

How is that not "looting"? Recursion Aug 2014 #2

yes, you are missing the distinction bigtree Aug 2014 #3

The definition of looting. talkguy365 Aug 2014 #39

there might be a reasonable and legally valid defense, in this case bigtree Aug 2014 #58

There was no emergency. talkguy365 Aug 2014 #62

personal emergency bigtree Aug 2014 #64

TG what would it take for you to change your mind? Would, could any Vincardog Aug 2014 #65

I can't see the emergency in this case. talkguy365 Aug 2014 #88

it's fortunate then that you don't get to define that emergency bigtree Aug 2014 #90

The courts are not on your side. talkguy365 Aug 2014 #91

as a juror in that town bigtree Aug 2014 #92

Are the alleged protestors members of the military? Do they not have the right Vincardog Aug 2014 #94

Please protest in a respectful manner. talkguy365 Aug 2014 #95

What has that got to do with breaking a window go get milk to ease the suffering Vincardog Aug 2014 #96

The right to assemble doesn't give way to breaking the law. talkguy365 Aug 2014 #97

Your assumptions are not facts. No one is guilty until tried and convicted. Shooting Vincardog Aug 2014 #98

The police said they were shot at last night. talkguy365 Aug 2014 #99

Please post a link. What happened to your assumptions about window breakers Vincardog Aug 2014 #100

Blaming the victim is an old tactic. Vincardog Aug 2014 #93

You will when you have to suck some tear gas Warpy Aug 2014 #101

Perhaps you missed the tear gas coming from both directions last night. Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #70

Teargas - Try it on yourself sometime ThoughtCriminal Aug 2014 #84

I'm familiar with cs gas. talkguy365 Aug 2014 #89

Remember the parallel pics from Katrina? According to the captions, a white couple tblue37 Aug 2014 #63

Bingo! +1000 blackspade Aug 2014 #45

How was it not murder? heaven05 Aug 2014 #4

I'm pretty sure it was murder Recursion Aug 2014 #16

Yes, you are. Iggo Aug 2014 #5

Context is everything tkmorris Aug 2014 #6

+1 Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #9

+1 more Amimnoch Aug 2014 #33

Reminds me of Katrina pics -- "looting" vs "finding" bread. moriah Aug 2014 #43

Black people "loot", white people "find"... TeeYiYi Aug 2014 #53

Yay, that's my picture! I've seen it pop up a few times in the past week. arcane1 Aug 2014 #55

It's at Huffington Post... TeeYiYi Aug 2014 #57

Oh, yes, if they're black, it's looting. If they're white, it's quick thinking. valerief Aug 2014 #7

^^ Correct. Lex Aug 2014 #15

Yeah, I remember the Katrina photos. Recursion Aug 2014 #18

Glad you explained it to him. zeemike Aug 2014 #40

Boom! Cali_Democrat Aug 2014 #59

Were you similarly confused by the Katrina Photos? 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #12

No, they both looked like looting to me Recursion Aug 2014 #19

Oh ... Okay. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #25

Yeah from your safe chair in front of your computer SomethingFishy Aug 2014 #27

Maybe I'm wrong about what "looting" means Recursion Aug 2014 #28

Looting is about opportunism, not survival or health gollygee Aug 2014 #78

Do you not remember the Fox News piece during Katrina? SomethingFishy Aug 2014 #20

As I've said twice, I remember those photos, and they both seemed like "looting" to me Recursion Aug 2014 #21

And you're missing the point that while you may be oh-so-colorblind.... few actually are. moriah Aug 2014 #52

Although I agree with you about this description of the McDonald's break-in Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #72

Contracting it down to "armed robbery" certainly was more than media spin. moriah Aug 2014 #76

That, I agree with (the shortening). Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #86

What would you suggest that they should have done Stellar Aug 2014 #22

Same thing I would have done: break into a McDonalds Recursion Aug 2014 #24

OK, point taken. Stellar Aug 2014 #83

Got milk and water from their homes? 840high Aug 2014 #38

Can't - many of them were blocked off from being able to leave the area Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #73

Thanks. I didn't know that. 840high Aug 2014 #77

I was up late last night watching one of the live streams Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #85

CNN live stream was not very good. 840high Aug 2014 #87

The actions also fit well within the first three parameters of the word 'requisition' LanternWaste Aug 2014 #69

McDonalds: Last place I would "loot." Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #8

And another generation gets added to 2 centuries worth of this repertoire. nt BumRushDaShow Aug 2014 #10

Ok, not looting got it. Just burglary. nt cstanleytech Aug 2014 #11

Yes, Burglary ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #13

Odd, I was under the impression that its still burglary regardless if they left money for cstanleytech Aug 2014 #14

Were you under the impression that you are deciding the charges? Lex Aug 2014 #17

Nope I'm just trying to make sure we are all on the same page since its not "looting". cstanleytech Aug 2014 #26

Their intent was not to commit a crime but to help someone in a medical emergency. Lex Aug 2014 #29

Did they have a key? No. Thus they broke in. Did they take something? Yes. Thus it is burglary cstanleytech Aug 2014 #30

Wrong. If the intent was to help someone in a medical emergency Lex Aug 2014 #34

Wow. You have a really messed up set of priorities.[n/t] Maedhros Aug 2014 #41

Their intent was to commit a crime to help someone in a medical emergency Recursion Aug 2014 #31

I'm not "acting like" anything. I'm telling you that if their intent Lex Aug 2014 #35

Exigency is not an affirmative defense for theft Recursion Aug 2014 #36

I'm a bit late with this, but it was buried in someone's timeline bigtree Aug 2014 #44

Well, that's a huge difference Recursion Aug 2014 #46

if this account holds up, we'll see bigtree Aug 2014 #49

Now that does change it a whole hell of alot. cstanleytech Aug 2014 #60

So whether or not it is a crime depends on whether the company decides to press charges? Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #74

No. It depends on if there was actually any illegal entry. cstanleytech Aug 2014 #75

it may not be an important distinction to you bigtree Aug 2014 #37

That's why I included the conjunction, "AND" ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #23

So if someone breaks into my house nilesobek Aug 2014 #32

That's not what I am saying ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #47

I'm a cashier graveyard shift nilesobek Aug 2014 #51

�The necessity defense" bigtree Aug 2014 #54

They knew enough to have scarfs to cover their faces EC Aug 2014 #48

that might be good advice, as an afterthought bigtree Aug 2014 #50

Milk's not really helpful for CS. DirkGently Aug 2014 #56

I know what would happen to me.... ReRe Aug 2014 #61

. bigtree Aug 2014 #66

So they broke in to a locked business to take something they did not pay for Iamthetruth Aug 2014 #67

It is looting. Period. 840high Aug 2014 #68

It's not that clear cut bigtree Aug 2014 #71

I was tear-gassed with about 3000 other people. Tear gas burns like hell ... kwassa Aug 2014 #79

does milk work? lululu Aug 2014 #80

not so much bigtree Aug 2014 #81

Treatment for tear gas. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #82