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cwydro

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40. Exactly.

Mon Aug 18, 2014, 07:15 PM

Aug 2014

Yesterday on DU. I read NUMEROUS posts from the same posters saying Brown was shot in the back.

When I asked for verification, I got crickets.

And today we know. He was not shot in the back.

Other than that, I know nothing.

And neither does anyone else.

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This whole Michael Brown incident comes down to this:WE DON'T KNOW MUCH! [View all] Logical Aug 2014 OP

With all the media attention, I wonder where the policeman can get a fair trial. femmocrat Aug 2014 #1

It should be as fair as Mr. Brown's trial was n/t leftstreet Aug 2014 #10

Far more so, I would imagine, but I konw what you're saying. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #18

Because two wrongs make a right krawhitham Aug 2014 #38

you just admitted that what the cop did was Solomon Aug 2014 #60

NO SHIT, I never said it was not wrong krawhitham Aug 2014 #99

I wonder where they'll find a jurty diverse and unbiased enough to care about Michael Brown's life? bettyellen Aug 2014 #16

OH PLEASE he's already getting the fair treatment you have some white people justifying him killing bigdarryl Aug 2014 #130

ACtually we know a lot. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #2

Unarmed black teenager shot 6 times and killed....his body lay in the street for four hours Cali_Democrat Aug 2014 #3

Well put. TDale313 Aug 2014 #22

Witnesses on vid right after the incident say he was running boomer55 Aug 2014 #33

Link please.... Cali_Democrat Aug 2014 #39

I think this is the video. Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2014 #50

Here it is. boomer55 Aug 2014 #52

Nobody who said he was running at the cop actually saw it happen Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #46

On the vid the guy said he saw. Take a watch boomer55 Aug 2014 #58

Does anyone even know who it is talking in that video? Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #61

"he should come out and say so on the record" jberryhill Aug 2014 #79

Do you even know who the person is? Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #81

No, I dont jberryhill Aug 2014 #91

Well once the person comes out publicly I will listen to what they have to say Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #92

oh, so you only believe what you see on TV? jberryhill Aug 2014 #96

Where the hell did I say that? Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #97

"I said I would listen to the person if they came out publicly" jberryhill Aug 2014 #102

I never said anything about TV Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #104

No one has testified at a trial yet jberryhill Aug 2014 #117

I know that, I am not as stupid as you seem to want to believe I am Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #118

It's just that the term "on the record" treestar Aug 2014 #132

With 24,000 arrest warrents issued in one year, you are taking a very unfair stance. NCTraveler Aug 2014 #158

I never said anything about anyone risking their freedom Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #160

Well, there is a very good chance you won't believe the story of some then. NCTraveler Aug 2014 #162

That video is being used to push the bullshit story of the police Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #164

Oh you mean like the other eyewitnesses who say boomer55 Aug 2014 #84

Those people came out publicly, we know their names Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #88

Neither is relevant jberryhill Aug 2014 #94

There is a contemporaneous video Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #124

That's the point of contention at hand jberryhill Aug 2014 #134

witnesses also said brown was shot in the back. NM_Birder Aug 2014 #71

The witnesses never said the bullets hit him in the back Cali_Democrat Aug 2014 #72

Pathologist just said that one shot in his lower arm may have been fired from behind alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #87

Thank you! Cali_Democrat Aug 2014 #89

wow. NM_Birder Aug 2014 #111

It's Logical. look up his posts during the Zimmerman thing Scootaloo Aug 2014 #151

No flames here. I agree completely. NaturalHigh Aug 2014 #4

I trust the immediate witnesses treestar Aug 2014 #5

You can trust the statistical underdogs if you wish... pipoman Aug 2014 #9

Don't forget he was a "suspect" in a crime that was not reported. That's interesting, huh? elehhhhna Aug 2014 #13

It's like they have a playbook of procedures that they follow notadmblnd Aug 2014 #64

Agreed pipoman Aug 2014 #6

Woo hoo. Another one to put on Ignore. nt valerief Aug 2014 #7

Great, please do! Nt Logical Aug 2014 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Aug 2014 #31

Ouch, does it burn? gordianot Aug 2014 #11

You don't know the cop isn't talking Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #12

Actually, what I've read is that he was interviewed Igel Aug 2014 #19

There have been at least three eye witnesses interviewed so far... countryjake Aug 2014 #14

Because none are pure. Igel Aug 2014 #30

Well, that guy who was out sitting on his porch, overlooking the street... countryjake Aug 2014 #55

And they're all of the same continental origin Capt. Obvious Aug 2014 #106

They all said he was "shot in the back" cwydro Aug 2014 #73

No, they said he was shot from behind, or that the cop shot from behind him alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #90

No, they didn't. countryjake Aug 2014 #95

On the whole. Agreed. Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #15

We do know important things, so your point-of-view is in fact not true. kwassa Aug 2014 #17

what we do know etherealtruth Aug 2014 #20

We know MUCH MORE THAN ENOUGH to get anyone JCMach1 Aug 2014 #21

I don't think we do. If he was being rushed then he can say he was.... Logical Aug 2014 #24

you think he is going to take the stand... not likely JCMach1 Aug 2014 #27

He will have to talk to investigators, it is in almost every LE contract Lee-Lee Aug 2014 #69

Contract doesn't trump his constitutional rights... they can however fire him JCMach1 Aug 2014 #93

Actually I bet he "testifies" just like George Zimmerman exboyfil Aug 2014 #113

We know he was left in the street without any medical attention for four hours and then loaded Bandit Aug 2014 #121

The police have been total idiots in this whole mess. I have no defense of the police handling.... Logical Aug 2014 #147

If 6 shots aren't enough to get that thug arrested ecstatic Aug 2014 #23

What the Fuck ?? RagAss Aug 2014 #25

Really? A 300 pound man runs at a cop, maybe after an initial.... Logical Aug 2014 #28

I'll let that reply of yours speak for itself. RagAss Aug 2014 #36

Yep. When somebody has five shovels and a bulldozer digging a hole for themselves Number23 Aug 2014 #59

I read he was 6'8" somewhere gollygee Aug 2014 #100

Oh yeah, he was 10'2 if he was an inch Number23 Aug 2014 #105

I didn't know The Hulk was black CatWoman Aug 2014 #107

I'm waiting for them to say JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #126

yup, notice the difference in that post with the OP which is "we don't know"........ JI7 Aug 2014 #140

Handcuffs? War Horse Aug 2014 #62

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #80

This post pretty much declares that you know all you need to know. In bullwinkle428 Aug 2014 #101

Funny how laundry_queen Aug 2014 #120

Run away and call for backup Hippo_Tron Aug 2014 #149

For someone who makes a point of "WE DON'T KNOW" you sure seem to have your mind made up. Scootaloo Aug 2014 #152

I am worried that a WHITE COP IN MISSOURI WONT GET A FAIR TRIAL, WAIT randys1 Aug 2014 #26

Darren Wilson will not even be charged alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #29

You got that right. RagAss Aug 2014 #34

He might be, there is a whole lot of heat on this, depends on witness accounts randys1 Aug 2014 #37

ROFL gollygee Aug 2014 #41

I couldn't agree more. agbdf Aug 2014 #32

what all those black people say can't be trusted JI7 Aug 2014 #35

+1000 nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #42

No. Eyewitness accounts are always flawed. The race of the eyewitness does not matter. cwydro Aug 2014 #43

Looks like the New York Times got that wrong alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #82

Exactly. cwydro Aug 2014 #40

shot in the back? smakson Aug 2014 #63

Pathologist did indeed say that the shot in the lower arm may have come from behind alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #85

Here's the thread on the report that came out last night: Rhiannon12866 Aug 2014 #114

The pathologist who coauthored that autopsy has been all over television alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #115

I saw him on MSNBC and he was quite impressive. Rhiannon12866 Aug 2014 #116

One shot may have come from behind: the shot in the back of his arm may have come from behind alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #83

And I kept reading he was shot in the head Capt. Obvious Aug 2014 #108

How many times have we seen this play out? Cop shoots unarmed black guy, cop gets off nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #44

I find your preemptive self-martyrdom rather bemusing. LanternWaste Aug 2014 #45

I agree, but the CSI's and ME's around here know better than you and I. badtoworse Aug 2014 #47

cool story, bro KG Aug 2014 #48

We don't know much about the Auroa Colorado shooting or the Boston Bombing either 951-Riverside Aug 2014 #49

Like the Zimmerman case pintobean Aug 2014 #51

i wasn't shocked by the jury in the zimmerman case ,he is still a piece of shit murdering thug JI7 Aug 2014 #53

You say worthless, so probably bears repeating cause who really knows? TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #54

Not the truth notadmblnd Aug 2014 #56

Alerted on by more than one member notadmblnd Aug 2014 #57

The OP said that there are many conflicting stories. cwydro Aug 2014 #65

there are not many conflicting stories notadmblnd Aug 2014 #68

Please read any threads on DU in the last few days. cwydro Aug 2014 #76

Baden assistant medical examiner just now said, he could indeed have been shot while notadmblnd Aug 2014 #77

Yet will later ask with a wide-eyed, almost-believable sincerity LanternWaste Aug 2014 #67

I can't imagine how they look at themselves in a mirror notadmblnd Aug 2014 #70

But but its Logical, it says so right in the username!!!11111 bobduca Aug 2014 #129

i'm seeing a lot of this around here JI7 Aug 2014 #139

I didn't really think that was in question on a public forum. Rex Aug 2014 #66

True, but has that ever stopped those who have nothing else better to do? BKH70041 Aug 2014 #74

Darren Wilson murdered Mike Brown. Iggo Aug 2014 #75

I know what the world-renown forensic pathologist knows--that six bullets was "too much." nt MADem Aug 2014 #78

It's confusion on purpose. It's a hyper propaganda rollout meant to confuse and deflect. TheNutcracker Aug 2014 #86

You hit the nail on the head. smokey nj Aug 2014 #110

People are disagreeing with you for several reasons. Here's another: DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2014 #98

This whole Travon Martin incident comes down to this:WE DON'T KNOW MUCH! Capt. Obvious Aug 2014 #103

rofl CatWoman Aug 2014 #109

What we do know is that the Ferguson police are violent, incompetent and probably corrupt. wildeyed Aug 2014 #112

Well the audtopsy reports unreadierLizard Aug 2014 #119

Actually it doesn't contradict what the witnesses said at all... BklnDem75 Aug 2014 #142

considering that the official alibi keeps changing, the cops are lying. hobbit709 Aug 2014 #122

If the perp weren't a cop, he'd be in jail TransitJohn Aug 2014 #123

That depends on whether the perp could make bail jberryhill Aug 2014 #133

I don't recall bail being granted in 1st degree murder. TransitJohn Aug 2014 #135

Quit making sense. deaniac21 Aug 2014 #125

I know enough JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #127

"conflicting" bobduca Aug 2014 #128

true, but... Enrique Aug 2014 #131

So much energy ies expanded Harmony Blue Aug 2014 #136

Could Michael Brown have been a criminal thug AND the cop used excessive force?? cbdo2007 Aug 2014 #137

See, on DU... cwydro Aug 2014 #141

was he ever convicted of a crime ? JI7 Aug 2014 #143

You think people should only be arrested AFTER they've been convicted?? LOL cbdo2007 Aug 2014 #144

you aren't talking about just arresting him , you are saying he was a criminal thug JI7 Aug 2014 #145

Where did Cbdo say that? cwydro Aug 2014 #148

So it's ok to convict Michael Brown without a trial... BklnDem75 Aug 2014 #146

Well, there is video of him being a criminal thug. So the cops shouldn't stop suspected criminals? cbdo2007 Aug 2014 #153

Criminal means guilty of a crime BklnDem75 Aug 2014 #155

The term "criminal" means someone who has committed a crime. The term "convicted criminal" cbdo2007 Aug 2014 #156

You have to prove a crime was committed BklnDem75 Aug 2014 #157

Very sad. A kid is dead and you are obsessed with semantics. cbdo2007 Aug 2014 #159

Considering one has nothing to do with the other... BklnDem75 Aug 2014 #161

Same reason you feel it's important to paint all white police officers as wanting to kill as cbdo2007 Aug 2014 #163

I'm sure you have a link to that claim... BklnDem75 Aug 2014 #167

lol. no links needed. cbdo2007 Aug 2014 #168

lol indeed BklnDem75 Aug 2014 #170

Because being a "criminal thug" jen63 Aug 2014 #165

Does being a "criminal thug" justify questioning by the police? How about when you are a suspect in cbdo2007 Aug 2014 #166

He wasn't questioned by the police. jen63 Aug 2014 #169

Right..... cbdo2007 Aug 2014 #171

I don't care--police are too trigger happy WI_DEM Aug 2014 #138

Oh my goodness, not the "shoot the leg" thing again. NaturalHigh Aug 2014 #150

Okay we know more now, still big holes in the cops story. Rex Aug 2014 #154