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jberryhill

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79. "he should come out and say so on the record"

Mon Aug 18, 2014, 09:00 PM

Aug 2014

What does that phrase mean to you?

The only "record" which matters is testimony under oath.

Are you on the grand jury? Do you know this person hasn't done so?

Given that this person can be subpoenaed to testify at trial, one would certainly expect this person, willingly or not, to testify on the record.

Or do you mean it is every witness' responsibility to show up on television and say stuff?

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This whole Michael Brown incident comes down to this:WE DON'T KNOW MUCH! [View all] Logical Aug 2014 OP

With all the media attention, I wonder where the policeman can get a fair trial. femmocrat Aug 2014 #1

It should be as fair as Mr. Brown's trial was n/t leftstreet Aug 2014 #10

Far more so, I would imagine, but I konw what you're saying. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #18

Because two wrongs make a right krawhitham Aug 2014 #38

you just admitted that what the cop did was Solomon Aug 2014 #60

NO SHIT, I never said it was not wrong krawhitham Aug 2014 #99

I wonder where they'll find a jurty diverse and unbiased enough to care about Michael Brown's life? bettyellen Aug 2014 #16

OH PLEASE he's already getting the fair treatment you have some white people justifying him killing bigdarryl Aug 2014 #130

ACtually we know a lot. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #2

Unarmed black teenager shot 6 times and killed....his body lay in the street for four hours Cali_Democrat Aug 2014 #3

Well put. TDale313 Aug 2014 #22

Witnesses on vid right after the incident say he was running boomer55 Aug 2014 #33

Link please.... Cali_Democrat Aug 2014 #39

I think this is the video. Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2014 #50

Here it is. boomer55 Aug 2014 #52

Nobody who said he was running at the cop actually saw it happen Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #46

On the vid the guy said he saw. Take a watch boomer55 Aug 2014 #58

Does anyone even know who it is talking in that video? Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #61

"he should come out and say so on the record" jberryhill Aug 2014 #79

Do you even know who the person is? Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #81

No, I dont jberryhill Aug 2014 #91

Well once the person comes out publicly I will listen to what they have to say Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #92

oh, so you only believe what you see on TV? jberryhill Aug 2014 #96

Where the hell did I say that? Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #97

"I said I would listen to the person if they came out publicly" jberryhill Aug 2014 #102

I never said anything about TV Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #104

No one has testified at a trial yet jberryhill Aug 2014 #117

I know that, I am not as stupid as you seem to want to believe I am Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #118

It's just that the term "on the record" treestar Aug 2014 #132

With 24,000 arrest warrents issued in one year, you are taking a very unfair stance. NCTraveler Aug 2014 #158

I never said anything about anyone risking their freedom Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #160

Well, there is a very good chance you won't believe the story of some then. NCTraveler Aug 2014 #162

That video is being used to push the bullshit story of the police Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #164

Oh you mean like the other eyewitnesses who say boomer55 Aug 2014 #84

Those people came out publicly, we know their names Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #88

Neither is relevant jberryhill Aug 2014 #94

There is a contemporaneous video Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #124

That's the point of contention at hand jberryhill Aug 2014 #134

witnesses also said brown was shot in the back. NM_Birder Aug 2014 #71

The witnesses never said the bullets hit him in the back Cali_Democrat Aug 2014 #72

Pathologist just said that one shot in his lower arm may have been fired from behind alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #87

Thank you! Cali_Democrat Aug 2014 #89

wow. NM_Birder Aug 2014 #111

It's Logical. look up his posts during the Zimmerman thing Scootaloo Aug 2014 #151

No flames here. I agree completely. NaturalHigh Aug 2014 #4

I trust the immediate witnesses treestar Aug 2014 #5

You can trust the statistical underdogs if you wish... pipoman Aug 2014 #9

Don't forget he was a "suspect" in a crime that was not reported. That's interesting, huh? elehhhhna Aug 2014 #13

It's like they have a playbook of procedures that they follow notadmblnd Aug 2014 #64

Agreed pipoman Aug 2014 #6

Woo hoo. Another one to put on Ignore. nt valerief Aug 2014 #7

Great, please do! Nt Logical Aug 2014 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Aug 2014 #31

Ouch, does it burn? gordianot Aug 2014 #11

You don't know the cop isn't talking Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #12

Actually, what I've read is that he was interviewed Igel Aug 2014 #19

There have been at least three eye witnesses interviewed so far... countryjake Aug 2014 #14

Because none are pure. Igel Aug 2014 #30

Well, that guy who was out sitting on his porch, overlooking the street... countryjake Aug 2014 #55

And they're all of the same continental origin Capt. Obvious Aug 2014 #106

They all said he was "shot in the back" cwydro Aug 2014 #73

No, they said he was shot from behind, or that the cop shot from behind him alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #90

No, they didn't. countryjake Aug 2014 #95

On the whole. Agreed. Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #15

We do know important things, so your point-of-view is in fact not true. kwassa Aug 2014 #17

what we do know etherealtruth Aug 2014 #20

We know MUCH MORE THAN ENOUGH to get anyone JCMach1 Aug 2014 #21

I don't think we do. If he was being rushed then he can say he was.... Logical Aug 2014 #24

you think he is going to take the stand... not likely JCMach1 Aug 2014 #27

He will have to talk to investigators, it is in almost every LE contract Lee-Lee Aug 2014 #69

Contract doesn't trump his constitutional rights... they can however fire him JCMach1 Aug 2014 #93

Actually I bet he "testifies" just like George Zimmerman exboyfil Aug 2014 #113

We know he was left in the street without any medical attention for four hours and then loaded Bandit Aug 2014 #121

The police have been total idiots in this whole mess. I have no defense of the police handling.... Logical Aug 2014 #147

If 6 shots aren't enough to get that thug arrested ecstatic Aug 2014 #23

What the Fuck ?? RagAss Aug 2014 #25

Really? A 300 pound man runs at a cop, maybe after an initial.... Logical Aug 2014 #28

I'll let that reply of yours speak for itself. RagAss Aug 2014 #36

Yep. When somebody has five shovels and a bulldozer digging a hole for themselves Number23 Aug 2014 #59

I read he was 6'8" somewhere gollygee Aug 2014 #100

Oh yeah, he was 10'2 if he was an inch Number23 Aug 2014 #105

I didn't know The Hulk was black CatWoman Aug 2014 #107

I'm waiting for them to say JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #126

yup, notice the difference in that post with the OP which is "we don't know"........ JI7 Aug 2014 #140

Handcuffs? War Horse Aug 2014 #62

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #80

This post pretty much declares that you know all you need to know. In bullwinkle428 Aug 2014 #101

Funny how laundry_queen Aug 2014 #120

Run away and call for backup Hippo_Tron Aug 2014 #149

For someone who makes a point of "WE DON'T KNOW" you sure seem to have your mind made up. Scootaloo Aug 2014 #152

I am worried that a WHITE COP IN MISSOURI WONT GET A FAIR TRIAL, WAIT randys1 Aug 2014 #26

Darren Wilson will not even be charged alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #29

You got that right. RagAss Aug 2014 #34

He might be, there is a whole lot of heat on this, depends on witness accounts randys1 Aug 2014 #37

ROFL gollygee Aug 2014 #41

I couldn't agree more. agbdf Aug 2014 #32

what all those black people say can't be trusted JI7 Aug 2014 #35

+1000 nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #42

No. Eyewitness accounts are always flawed. The race of the eyewitness does not matter. cwydro Aug 2014 #43

Looks like the New York Times got that wrong alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #82

Exactly. cwydro Aug 2014 #40

shot in the back? smakson Aug 2014 #63

Pathologist did indeed say that the shot in the lower arm may have come from behind alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #85

Here's the thread on the report that came out last night: Rhiannon12866 Aug 2014 #114

The pathologist who coauthored that autopsy has been all over television alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #115

I saw him on MSNBC and he was quite impressive. Rhiannon12866 Aug 2014 #116

One shot may have come from behind: the shot in the back of his arm may have come from behind alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #83

And I kept reading he was shot in the head Capt. Obvious Aug 2014 #108

How many times have we seen this play out? Cop shoots unarmed black guy, cop gets off nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #44

I find your preemptive self-martyrdom rather bemusing. LanternWaste Aug 2014 #45

I agree, but the CSI's and ME's around here know better than you and I. badtoworse Aug 2014 #47

cool story, bro KG Aug 2014 #48

We don't know much about the Auroa Colorado shooting or the Boston Bombing either 951-Riverside Aug 2014 #49

Like the Zimmerman case pintobean Aug 2014 #51

i wasn't shocked by the jury in the zimmerman case ,he is still a piece of shit murdering thug JI7 Aug 2014 #53

You say worthless, so probably bears repeating cause who really knows? TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #54

Not the truth notadmblnd Aug 2014 #56

Alerted on by more than one member notadmblnd Aug 2014 #57

The OP said that there are many conflicting stories. cwydro Aug 2014 #65

there are not many conflicting stories notadmblnd Aug 2014 #68

Please read any threads on DU in the last few days. cwydro Aug 2014 #76

Baden assistant medical examiner just now said, he could indeed have been shot while notadmblnd Aug 2014 #77

Yet will later ask with a wide-eyed, almost-believable sincerity LanternWaste Aug 2014 #67

I can't imagine how they look at themselves in a mirror notadmblnd Aug 2014 #70

But but its Logical, it says so right in the username!!!11111 bobduca Aug 2014 #129

i'm seeing a lot of this around here JI7 Aug 2014 #139

I didn't really think that was in question on a public forum. Rex Aug 2014 #66

True, but has that ever stopped those who have nothing else better to do? BKH70041 Aug 2014 #74

Darren Wilson murdered Mike Brown. Iggo Aug 2014 #75

I know what the world-renown forensic pathologist knows--that six bullets was "too much." nt MADem Aug 2014 #78

It's confusion on purpose. It's a hyper propaganda rollout meant to confuse and deflect. TheNutcracker Aug 2014 #86

You hit the nail on the head. smokey nj Aug 2014 #110

People are disagreeing with you for several reasons. Here's another: DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2014 #98

This whole Travon Martin incident comes down to this:WE DON'T KNOW MUCH! Capt. Obvious Aug 2014 #103

rofl CatWoman Aug 2014 #109

What we do know is that the Ferguson police are violent, incompetent and probably corrupt. wildeyed Aug 2014 #112

Well the audtopsy reports unreadierLizard Aug 2014 #119

Actually it doesn't contradict what the witnesses said at all... BklnDem75 Aug 2014 #142

considering that the official alibi keeps changing, the cops are lying. hobbit709 Aug 2014 #122

If the perp weren't a cop, he'd be in jail TransitJohn Aug 2014 #123

That depends on whether the perp could make bail jberryhill Aug 2014 #133

I don't recall bail being granted in 1st degree murder. TransitJohn Aug 2014 #135

Quit making sense. deaniac21 Aug 2014 #125

I know enough JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #127

"conflicting" bobduca Aug 2014 #128

true, but... Enrique Aug 2014 #131

So much energy ies expanded Harmony Blue Aug 2014 #136

Could Michael Brown have been a criminal thug AND the cop used excessive force?? cbdo2007 Aug 2014 #137

See, on DU... cwydro Aug 2014 #141

was he ever convicted of a crime ? JI7 Aug 2014 #143

You think people should only be arrested AFTER they've been convicted?? LOL cbdo2007 Aug 2014 #144

you aren't talking about just arresting him , you are saying he was a criminal thug JI7 Aug 2014 #145

Where did Cbdo say that? cwydro Aug 2014 #148

So it's ok to convict Michael Brown without a trial... BklnDem75 Aug 2014 #146

Well, there is video of him being a criminal thug. So the cops shouldn't stop suspected criminals? cbdo2007 Aug 2014 #153

Criminal means guilty of a crime BklnDem75 Aug 2014 #155

The term "criminal" means someone who has committed a crime. The term "convicted criminal" cbdo2007 Aug 2014 #156

You have to prove a crime was committed BklnDem75 Aug 2014 #157

Very sad. A kid is dead and you are obsessed with semantics. cbdo2007 Aug 2014 #159

Considering one has nothing to do with the other... BklnDem75 Aug 2014 #161

Same reason you feel it's important to paint all white police officers as wanting to kill as cbdo2007 Aug 2014 #163

I'm sure you have a link to that claim... BklnDem75 Aug 2014 #167

lol. no links needed. cbdo2007 Aug 2014 #168

lol indeed BklnDem75 Aug 2014 #170

Because being a "criminal thug" jen63 Aug 2014 #165

Does being a "criminal thug" justify questioning by the police? How about when you are a suspect in cbdo2007 Aug 2014 #166

He wasn't questioned by the police. jen63 Aug 2014 #169

Right..... cbdo2007 Aug 2014 #171

I don't care--police are too trigger happy WI_DEM Aug 2014 #138

Oh my goodness, not the "shoot the leg" thing again. NaturalHigh Aug 2014 #150

Okay we know more now, still big holes in the cops story. Rex Aug 2014 #154