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BrotherIvan

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33. There is no hatred in this post

Mon Aug 18, 2014, 10:23 PM

Aug 2014

There is concern for the protesters. There is a well-reasoned argument. If you do not agree, put up your own well-reasoned argument.

People are fighting for their community, for their dignity, for their own safety and the safety of their children. How many nights will they be terrorized? When will it be ok for someone in power to do something? When will it end, when the protesters give up and go home?

It's ok to ask for help from our elected officials. If a Republican were president, there would be non-stop criticism of the police being totally out of control, the governor completely clueless and weak, and no one on the side of the community besides some journalists and activists. We would want the president to do something.

If President Obama went to Ferguson and hugged people and saw the destruction, there would be thread after thread praising him. Why can't there be bigtree's thread that asks why he's not?

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Remember not to holler over Ferguson like our parental president says. . . 'don't shout' [View all] bigtree Aug 2014 OP

Nope, do not go quietly. notadmblnd Aug 2014 #1

Hey, it works for him when dealing with republicans elehhhhna Aug 2014 #2

The Great Neutralizer billhicks76 Aug 2014 #54

shout and cry out for justice. only the dead are silent roguevalley Aug 2014 #83

Too Many Apologists On DU billhicks76 Aug 2014 #107

That sounds about right. ReRe Aug 2014 #87

What do you think about the proposal of a 5 day moratorium on night time protests? pinto Aug 2014 #3

Restricting the right to peaceful assembly based on a clock? tavalon Aug 2014 #22

I saw a representative of the Black Panther Party propose that today. pinto Aug 2014 #38

Now, from that angle, yeah, it's a good idea tavalon Aug 2014 #40

As long as it is voluntary and it came from the black community it is interesting. cui bono Aug 2014 #69

Why? Why ask the protesters to be quiet? Is there some notion somewhere that this is just sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #43

Democracy is like genealogy... ReRe Aug 2014 #85

+1 Scuba Aug 2014 #114

No. ReRe Aug 2014 #91

So, you want dramatics and moving speeches CakeGrrl Aug 2014 #4

I think it is high time that Obama used his bully pulpit to address the black elephant in the room tavalon Aug 2014 #25

if ever there was a time cvoogt Aug 2014 #61

There is NO bully pulpit. There hasn't been since Reagan relaxed ownership laws BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #111

No, I've gotten the memo tavalon Aug 2014 #120

Rose Garden speeches rarely broadcast in their entirety. BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #121

He needs to take a stand and stop with the always present 'both sides did it'. This tactic happens sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #47

"Is he supposed to pump his fist and yell "fight the power!"?" cui bono Aug 2014 #66

And why is it that "some" people... ReRe Aug 2014 #94

Do not go gentle into that good night....... Autumn Aug 2014 #5

Sometimes the quietest one in the room is the smartest one. NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #6

Yes. ^^^^^ KelleyD Aug 2014 #13

THANK YOU, SKP. elleng Aug 2014 #15

Thank you SKP. sheshe2 Aug 2014 #18

This is how President Obama is getting things done, she.. Cha Aug 2014 #50

Thank you Cha. sheshe2 Aug 2014 #53

Caption: cui bono Aug 2014 #71

NYC_SKP....Did you LISTEN to that Whole Speech? KoKo Aug 2014 #19

Sometimes I really wish there were a way that woo me with science Aug 2014 #23

Do it anyway. bravenak Aug 2014 #65

Now that would have been interesting. This would have been the perfect time to do it too. n/t cui bono Aug 2014 #73

No, just the part about Ferguson, excerpted here: NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #28

It's good we can differ without venom and vitriol.... KoKo Aug 2014 #35

No, you expressed it well, woo me with science Aug 2014 #39

He is not going to encourage a riot. Those are expected words coming from a President. JaydenD Aug 2014 #42

We understand he has to be Presidential and be a Calming influence..but KoKo Aug 2014 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author BuelahWitch Aug 2014 #57

Really? I listened too and read the transcript that I had no problem finding. sheshe2 Aug 2014 #64

a thing I've come to realize in my short life Quayblue Aug 2014 #62

That's true. You will NEVER please everyone. Which is why you need to decide which side sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #77

Thanks, that one's a keeper. freshwest Aug 2014 #104

Reading that took 5 minutes of my life that I will never get back bluestateguy Aug 2014 #7

So True! KelleyD Aug 2014 #11

Fail. nt ecstatic Aug 2014 #8

+ a million Number23 Aug 2014 #45

''he obviously doesn't understand anything about what folks are angry about. '' w.t.f. JaydenD Aug 2014 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Aug 2014 #58

Can you just not give it a rest? Yeashhhhhh! Sick of it! KelleyD Aug 2014 #10

So are the residents of Ferguson Capt. Obvious Aug 2014 #12

It's not the shouting; it's the shooting. WinkyDink Aug 2014 #14

Don't peg me. I stand with Ferguson..not trashing our POTHUS. So what? KelleyD Aug 2014 #16

I Watched It.. It was Shocking... How did you find the Transcript? KoKo Aug 2014 #17

You do realize that he is the President of the United States? KelleyD Aug 2014 #20

I believe the sign the college student seen in another thread stated explains the rage and AuntPatsy Aug 2014 #37

+1 cui bono Aug 2014 #74

The redneck yahoos are going to hate him no matter what BuelahWitch Aug 2014 #112

SHUT UP, LISTEN, GIT BACK IN UR HOUSE AND STAY THERE UNTIL SUNRISE! 951-Riverside Aug 2014 #21

K&R I feel sick, woo me with science Aug 2014 #24

Thanks WOO...it's good to know we still have a few folks fighting against KoKo Aug 2014 #31

+1 Police militarization, surveillance, assaults on journalism, persecution of whistleblowers... woo me with science Aug 2014 #41

There are threads explaining very well why Obama has to be circumspect in what he says. KittyWampus Aug 2014 #70

You continue to disappoint me, Bigtree. jaysunb Aug 2014 #26

I've read his ops lately I don't see hate, I read anger and frustration, considering everything both AuntPatsy Aug 2014 #30

Another hater's gonna hate! Capt. Obvious Aug 2014 #32

There is no hatred in this post BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #33

There is actually a lot of hate� and ignorance. The only way not to see it is to share it. KittyWampus Aug 2014 #72

I always watch the President's statements and speeches if I'm near a TV. conservaphobe Aug 2014 #48

+1 n/t jaysunb Aug 2014 #49

You nailed it. And some folks have made being disingenous assholes their speciality Number23 Aug 2014 #55

yup CatWoman Aug 2014 #59

"Manufacturing outrage is fun and good for business I suppose" NYC Liberal Aug 2014 #68

Which office? We're talking about POTUS here. And he is NOT a liberal Democrat. cui bono Aug 2014 #76

Obama is a liberal Democrat and to assert otherwise laughably absurd. NYC Liberal Aug 2014 #92

You shouldn't call what Obama says "laughably absurd". cui bono Aug 2014 #93

I look at actions. Obama's actions are those of a liberal Democrat. NYC Liberal Aug 2014 #95

You calling Obama a liar? cui bono Aug 2014 #96

No. Where did he say he is not a liberal? NYC Liberal Aug 2014 #98

Right here: cui bono Aug 2014 #100

+1 sagat Aug 2014 #103

Examples of the hate please? Links? cui bono Aug 2014 #75

Because the president's feelings are what's clearly important here. Scootaloo Aug 2014 #82

I don't Grok my last sentence, but this I know. KelleyD Aug 2014 #27

K&R. AuntPatsy Aug 2014 #29

I'll repeat what the protestors told the Ferguson Police the other night csziggy Aug 2014 #34

Watched the whole press conference from start to finish. conservaphobe Aug 2014 #36

I've said it before, you've spent too much time in this forum. Seriously Number23 Aug 2014 #44

Oh, good, the "Blame Obama" people are here. 6000eliot Aug 2014 #46

I honestly don't see blaming anyone here? You know my son who is 28 told me the other night AuntPatsy Aug 2014 #63

I think he's doing what he can. 6000eliot Aug 2014 #84

What is he getting blamed for? n/t cui bono Aug 2014 #78

Presidentin' 6000eliot Aug 2014 #86

Presidentin' While Black frazzled Aug 2014 #89

So you're calling people in this thread racists? cui bono Aug 2014 #97

So nothing. Thought so. n/t cui bono Aug 2014 #90

I respect what President Obama is trying to say. Brigid Aug 2014 #52

Hmmm, so Lincoln said all that just a few yrs before he hung 38 Sioux... countryjake Aug 2014 #56

Horrific, and for the record why aren't all the horrors done by early Americans part of our teaching AuntPatsy Aug 2014 #67

I agree with him. You can "holler" all you want, but people won't listen to you, wisteria Aug 2014 #60

It is truly astounding all the rights that people are willing to give up in order to defend Obama. cui bono Aug 2014 #79

I find it truly astounding that people are so tone deaf and unaware of the facts.... sheshe2 Aug 2014 #106

What rights? treestar Aug 2014 #118

Actions speak louder than words. littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #80

I'm so sick and tired of STUPIDITY underthematrix Aug 2014 #81

Thank you for those facts, sorry it won't be popular, I guess. freshwest Aug 2014 #102

The president creeksneakers2 Aug 2014 #88

Agitating hate groups more will not help loyalsister Aug 2014 #99

President Bigtree has spoken BeyondGeography Aug 2014 #101

Hmm, some folks just need to stop being so VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #105

WHY Obama cannot make any remarks considered prejudical or visit: WILSON WILL WALK! freshwest Aug 2014 #108

Kick and Hell yes Recommend! sheshe2 Aug 2014 #109

Thanks, your thanks made me cry a little! Big day tomorrow, though! Night, sweets. freshwest Aug 2014 #110

Hugs to you my dear freshwest. sheshe2 Aug 2014 #113

You'e slamming him for that? treestar Aug 2014 #115

Any outrage widget will do. JoePhilly Aug 2014 #117

We definitely need more bluster!!!!! JoePhilly Aug 2014 #116

Here in Minneapolis Puglover Aug 2014 #119