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In reply to the discussion: Remember not to holler over Ferguson like our parental president says. . . 'don't shout' [View all]cui bono
(19,926 posts)100. Right here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5409775
He is not a liberal. You can think that if it makes it okay in your head that you want to defend him no matter what, but he's simply not a liberal.
The militarization of the police by DHS is a prime and current example.
He put Wall Street in the white house.
He offered up SS in negotiations.
He didn't even allow single-payer a seat at the ACA discussion table.
He had secret meetings with the insurance companies that he wouldn't admit to until he had to because it was being reported.
He never fought for the public option.
His health care reform is based on a Republican plan.
He spies on American citizens. He pushed to legalize what was once illegal, so he is doing worse than Bush on that issue.
He does drone strikes that kill innocent people regularly.
He thinks it's okay to assassinate American citizens without due process.
He called the previous administration's torturers "patriots".
He prosecutes way more whistleblowers than any other president.
He appoints Republicans to his cabinet.
He appoints Monsanto to the EPA.
That is no liberal.
As to the supporting him, an overwhelming majority of liberals don't pay that much attention to what he's doing. A small but loud minority cheering everything he does - even when it's not liberal at all - doesn't change that.
Over and out. I'm not going to keep going over facts with blind followers who refuse to acknowledge them.
He is not a liberal. You can think that if it makes it okay in your head that you want to defend him no matter what, but he's simply not a liberal.
The militarization of the police by DHS is a prime and current example.
He put Wall Street in the white house.
He offered up SS in negotiations.
He didn't even allow single-payer a seat at the ACA discussion table.
He had secret meetings with the insurance companies that he wouldn't admit to until he had to because it was being reported.
He never fought for the public option.
His health care reform is based on a Republican plan.
He spies on American citizens. He pushed to legalize what was once illegal, so he is doing worse than Bush on that issue.
He does drone strikes that kill innocent people regularly.
He thinks it's okay to assassinate American citizens without due process.
He called the previous administration's torturers "patriots".
He prosecutes way more whistleblowers than any other president.
He appoints Republicans to his cabinet.
He appoints Monsanto to the EPA.
That is no liberal.
As to the supporting him, an overwhelming majority of liberals don't pay that much attention to what he's doing. A small but loud minority cheering everything he does - even when it's not liberal at all - doesn't change that.
Over and out. I'm not going to keep going over facts with blind followers who refuse to acknowledge them.
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Remember not to holler over Ferguson like our parental president says. . . 'don't shout' [View all]
bigtree
Aug 2014
OP
What do you think about the proposal of a 5 day moratorium on night time protests?
pinto
Aug 2014
#3
As long as it is voluntary and it came from the black community it is interesting.
cui bono
Aug 2014
#69
Why? Why ask the protesters to be quiet? Is there some notion somewhere that this is just
sabrina 1
Aug 2014
#43
I think it is high time that Obama used his bully pulpit to address the black elephant in the room
tavalon
Aug 2014
#25
There is NO bully pulpit. There hasn't been since Reagan relaxed ownership laws
BlueCaliDem
Aug 2014
#111
He needs to take a stand and stop with the always present 'both sides did it'. This tactic happens
sabrina 1
Aug 2014
#47
Now that would have been interesting. This would have been the perfect time to do it too. n/t
cui bono
Aug 2014
#73
He is not going to encourage a riot. Those are expected words coming from a President.
JaydenD
Aug 2014
#42
That's true. You will NEVER please everyone. Which is why you need to decide which side
sabrina 1
Aug 2014
#77
''he obviously doesn't understand anything about what folks are angry about. '' w.t.f.
JaydenD
Aug 2014
#9
I believe the sign the college student seen in another thread stated explains the rage and
AuntPatsy
Aug 2014
#37
+1 Police militarization, surveillance, assaults on journalism, persecution of whistleblowers...
woo me with science
Aug 2014
#41
There are threads explaining very well why Obama has to be circumspect in what he says.
KittyWampus
Aug 2014
#70
I've read his ops lately I don't see hate, I read anger and frustration, considering everything both
AuntPatsy
Aug 2014
#30
There is actually a lot of hate… and ignorance. The only way not to see it is to share it.
KittyWampus
Aug 2014
#72
You nailed it. And some folks have made being disingenous assholes their speciality
Number23
Aug 2014
#55
Which office? We're talking about POTUS here. And he is NOT a liberal Democrat.
cui bono
Aug 2014
#76
I honestly don't see blaming anyone here? You know my son who is 28 told me the other night
AuntPatsy
Aug 2014
#63
Horrific, and for the record why aren't all the horrors done by early Americans part of our teaching
AuntPatsy
Aug 2014
#67
I agree with him. You can "holler" all you want, but people won't listen to you,
wisteria
Aug 2014
#60
It is truly astounding all the rights that people are willing to give up in order to defend Obama.
cui bono
Aug 2014
#79
I find it truly astounding that people are so tone deaf and unaware of the facts....
sheshe2
Aug 2014
#106
WHY Obama cannot make any remarks considered prejudical or visit: WILSON WILL WALK!
freshwest
Aug 2014
#108
Thanks, your thanks made me cry a little! Big day tomorrow, though! Night, sweets.
freshwest
Aug 2014
#110