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In reply to the discussion: Is it me, or has anyon else noticed ... [View all]TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)However, at this point I'm leaning more toward the officer's version of events at least in part. I do think it was likely that Brown attacked the officer in his car where the first shot was fired. What happened after that? Nobody knows yet.
Despite the perpetual screaming about police officers here every case where an officer has been acquitted for a shooting it was because it was justifiable according to the law. Over and over people here are always screaming that police are "getting away with it" when they're cleared of wrong doing by grand jury investigation, and those grand juries are made up of average citizens of all stripes yet are also condemned for being willing to indict a ham sandwich. Well, which is it? Can't have it both ways.
There is also the very real problem here of people expecting police officers to be robotic supermen when they are just as average as any other average person. Yet these average people because of their job are required to make split second decisions in terrifying life threatening circumstances where their own lives and sometimes that of other people are a split second away from who knows what. In those situations the average civilian would be more likely to freeze, crap their pants or both.
Because of the nature of the job they have to put up with more shit on the job than any other job I can conceive of. I've said a million times that there's no amount of money I could be paid for doing it. And add to that the epic vilification of police officers for no other reason than that they are one. Not because they've done one single thing to deserve that vilification personally yet they have to put up with a gazillion times more of it than any other job. Officers with no complaints that have been on the job for several years are more likely going to be those that can deal with the every day shit and let it roll off them like water off the back of a duck. The ones that can't hack it are usually ferreted out pretty quickly having a rather poor track record and/or not being on the job for very long.
Now, with this particular case it's ludicrous to believe that this officer for no reason whatsoever shot a guy to death in broad daylight on a busy public street full of people right there to see it. Doesn't happen unless the officer has suddenly lost their mind and has a death wish. Further, there's just no way that this officer would have pulled Brown into his car and threatened him with his gun when there are two guys - Brown and Johnson - to his one, Brown was 6'4" and nearly 300 lbs. besides and having no idea whatsoever if either of them were armed when this is a neighborhood that is crime riddled where many young men are. Moreover, he's worked this beat for four or more years without a single complaint of ANYTHING whatsoever against him. Given what's been happening in this community I can't imagine that even at this point no one would have complained about anything about his attitude previously if there was anything to complain about. You can bet your sweet bippy that once his name and face were released anyone who had any kind of bad experience with him in the past would be running to the nearest microphone about it. Hasn't happened.
And now we know that moments before these two men and the officer met up Brown had just robbed a store, and that goes directly to his character and more importantly his mindset when the officer stopped them. He would have been crapping his pants that he'd been caught, and it is reasonable to believe that in the face of a robbery arrest that would have destroyed his future he would have been willing to do just about anything to get away from this officer.
I am inclined to believe because of all of this information that it was Brown who lunged into the officer's car where there was a struggle that left the officer with injuries, but what happened after that first shot inside the car I have no idea. Neither does anyone else at this point. If Brown gave up and tried to run away and the officer shot him multiple times when he was no longer a danger to him, then yep, he should be charged for that. One thing that would shed light on that would be where did Brown's body end up in relation to the officer's car. I've read a couple of times in more obscure sources that have said that his body lay just outside the officer's car door. Until such time this comes out in the main news sources I'm pretty much discounting it at this point. It's an important piece of the puzzle though.
I don't do bias especially when it comes to criminal cases or possible criminal cases. What has always interested me in criminal cases is what happened, why it happened and who if anyone is guilty of what. It's like putting a puzzle together, so I don't WANT any bias or non-facts because then the puzzle pieces don't fit and the picture comes out wrong. And what's the point of working out a puzzle if you don't care what pieces go together to form a correct revealing whole?
I don't do real life according to agenda. That's the ugly of politics and the ugly of people. And it's damn ugly that anyone here just automatically right out of the gate believed absolutely on nothing more than agenda that this officer is a murderer and worse don't think an investigation to ascertain the facts need be bothered with. I don't want anything to do with a world where "justice" means throwing someone in jail based on agenda and not facts and the law. That's mob rule, and nobody here despite all the insistence that this officer is guilty of something with no facts whatsoever wants mob rule justice.