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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
55. I object to people who malign those interested in learning and sharing the truth.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 01:47 PM
Aug 2014

I don't care if it's RT or NYT. Here's a 2013 post on why I feel that way:

Wanna Know Why We the People Really Don't Know Squat?

Corporate McPravda owns the airwaves.



And Corporate Tee Vee is still where most Americans get most of their information, including their ideas about these two statues. Wonder what people would think were they to learn from the tee vee what pater and fils have really done with their power?



The Propaganda System That Has Helped Create a Permanent Overclass Is Over a Century in the Making

Pulling back the curtain on how intent the wealthiest Americans have been on establishing a propaganda tool to subvert democracy.

Wednesday, 17 April 2013 00:00
By Andrew Gavin Marshall, AlterNet | News Analysis

Where there is the possibility of democracy, there is the inevitability of elite insecurity. All through its history, democracy has been under a sustained attack by elite interests, political, economic, and cultural. There is a simple reason for this: democracy – as in true democracy – places power with people. In such circumstances, the few who hold power become threatened. With technological changes in modern history, with literacy and education, mass communication, organization and activism, elites have had to react to the changing nature of society – locally and globally.

From the late 19th century on, the “threats” to elite interests from the possibility of true democracy mobilized institutions, ideologies, and individuals in support of power. What began was a massive social engineering project with one objective: control. Through educational institutions, the social sciences, philanthropic foundations, public relations and advertising agencies, corporations, banks, and states, powerful interests sought to reform and protect their power from the potential of popular democracy.

SNIP...

The development of psychology, psychoanalysis, and other disciplines increasingly portrayed the “public” and the population as irrational beings incapable of making their own decisions. The premise was simple: if the population was driven by dangerous, irrational emotions, they needed to be kept out of power and ruled over by those who were driven by reason and rationality, naturally, those who were already in power.

The Princeton Radio Project, which began in the 1930s with Rockefeller Foundation funding, brought together many psychologists, social scientists, and “experts” armed with an interest in social control, mass communication, and propaganda. The Princeton Radio Project had a profound influence upon the development of a modern "democratic propaganda" in the United States and elsewhere in the industrialized world. It helped in establishing and nurturing the ideas, institutions, and individuals who would come to shape America’s “democratic propaganda” throughout the Cold War, a program fostered between the private corporations which own the media, advertising, marketing, and public relations industries, and the state itself.

CONTINUED...

http://truth-out.org/news/item/15784-the-propaganda-system-that-has-helped-create-a-permanent-overclass-is-over-a-century-in-the-making



Thankfully, to help spread light when the protectors of the First Amendment won't, Maria Galardin's TUC (Time of Useful Consciousness) Radio. The podcast helps explain how we got here and what we need to do to move forward, starting with putting the "Public" into Airwaves again:



Alex Carey: Corporations and Propaganda
The Attack on Democracy


The 20th century, said Carey, is marked by three historic developments: the growth of democracy via the expansion of the franchise, the growth of corporations, and the growth of propaganda to protect corporations from democracy. Carey wrote that the people of the US have been subjected to an unparalleled, expensive, 3/4 century long propaganda effort designed to expand corporate rights by undermining democracy and destroying the unions. And, in his manuscript, unpublished during his life time, he described that history, going back to World War I and ending with the Reagan era. Carey covers the little known role of the US Chamber of Commerce in the McCarthy witch hunts of post WWII and shows how the continued campaign against "Big Government" plays an important role in bringing Reagan to power.

John Pilger called Carey "a second Orwell", Noam Chomsky dedicated his book, Manufacturing Consent, to him. And even though TUC Radio runs our documentary based on Carey's manuscript at least every two years and draws a huge response each time, Alex Carey is still unknown.

Given today's spotlight on corporations that may change. It is not only the Occupy movement that inspired me to present this program again at this time. By an amazing historic coincidence Bill Moyers and Charlie Cray of Greenpeace have just added the missing chapter to Carey's analysis. Carey's manuscript ends in 1988 when he committed suicide. Moyers and Cray begin with 1971 and bring the corporate propaganda project up to date.

This is a fairly complex production with many voices, historic sound clips, and source material. The program has been used by writers and students of history and propaganda. Alex Carey: Taking the Risk out of Democracy, Corporate Propaganda VS Freedom and Liberty with a foreword by Noam Chomsky was published by the University of Illinois Press in 1995.

SOURCE: http://tucradio.org/new.html



If you find a moment, here's the first part (scroll down at the link for the second part) on Carey.

http://tucradio.org/AlexCarey_ONE.mp3

It's important for there to be more than a handful of companies providing "news." Democracy depends on it.

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As opposed to those people who believe what they're told by corporate media, right? Octafish Aug 2014 #11
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Not me. Octafish Aug 2014 #14
You might go back to post #11 and reread what you wrote in your response to me davidpdx Aug 2014 #15
No. Here's what I'm talking about... Octafish Aug 2014 #17
Yeah. zappaman Aug 2014 #20
Ok, so RT isn't 'corporate media'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #29
Excellent point. Octafish Aug 2014 #31
Reporters are not "corporate media." joshcryer Aug 2014 #38
You're writing to one. Octafish Aug 2014 #49
Ah, I see.... Adrahil Aug 2014 #45
No, that's not what I wrote. Octafish Aug 2014 #50
Thanks for the suto-correct catch... now then, what DID you mean? Adrahil Aug 2014 #52
I object to people who malign those interested in learning and sharing the truth. Octafish Aug 2014 #55
That's great, but.... Adrahil Aug 2014 #56
Right. Lots of people on DU mock 'Conspiracy Theories.' I'm not one of them. Octafish Aug 2014 #60
You mean those who believe anything our Corporate Media tells them? sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #34
Much better to just believe whatever Uncle Pootie would like you to believe, eh? NT Adrahil Aug 2014 #53
Didn't you mean to say 'Uncle Saddam'? sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #54
Ah yes... shift and dodge. Adrahil Aug 2014 #57
Another recycled right wing talking point against what they perceive as 'The dreaded Left'. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #61
I'm not even CLOSE to right wing. Heck, half my extended family won't talk to me.... Adrahil Aug 2014 #63
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