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riverbendviewgal

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Tue Aug 19, 2014, 02:30 PM Aug 2014

80% of Americans living and working overseas are considering giving up their U.S. citizenship, [View all]


That’s one potential lesson we can draw from recent years’ explosion of U.S. citizens living and working overseas who are now renouncing their citizenship. In the first six months of 2014, 1,577 Americans decided to expatriate; last year, nearly 3,000 called it quits, a record high number. In the last five years, a total of about 9,000 Americans surrendered their citizenship, according to a survey of federal data compiled by Bloomberg.

“It’s not just the super-rich doing it,” David McKeegan of Hong Kong-based Greenback Expat Tax Services says in Forbes. “We’re talking average, middle-class people, people teaching English as a second language and doing freelance jobs making $30,000–50,000 a year, simply because of the fact that they can’t open locked bank accounts.”

“The vast majority of U.S. expatriates living abroad harbor a strong sense of patriotism that includes a willingness to shoulder their fair share of the nation’s tax burden,” Kuenzi writes. “Deep resentment arises, however, when they confront the byzantine complexity of preparing a tax return that includes non-U.S. income and non-U.S. financial accounts. FATCA demands rigorous compliance with arcane rules that the IRS has until now never even attempted to enforce on a widespread basis. For Americans abroad, desperately trying to comply, the outcome to family finances is often disastrous.”


https://www.uschamber.com/blog/exit-strategy-fatca-tax-law-keeps-pushing-americans-give-citizenship
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A good friend of mine is renouncing his American citizenship this month... KansDem Aug 2014 #1
I could live in Switzerland tax or no tax thing! Luzerne, specifically! WinkyDink Aug 2014 #18
Is there any way to do that these days? Lost In America Aug 2014 #20
The Right Wing media is at work again thelordofhell Aug 2014 #2
"...let insanely rich people hide more money overseas" KansDem Aug 2014 #3
A myth riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #11
Insanely rich people already hide their money riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #5
I didn't need to click the link edhopper Aug 2014 #4
of course riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #6
Give me an article from an unbiased source edhopper Aug 2014 #7
Given that the US Chamber heavily funds opponents to Democrats Algernon Moncrieff Aug 2014 #10
Open mind to Chamber of Commerce. Bwahahahaha! valerief Aug 2014 #26
Correct. Early campaigning from the Chamber of Commerce asshats. FSogol Aug 2014 #8
Of course the US Chamber will say it's not just the super-rich Algernon Moncrieff Aug 2014 #9
I live in Canada - I gave up my US citizenship. I am not whining.... I am grateful to be a Canadian. riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #13
So don't post links edhopper Aug 2014 #14
I love unions riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #16
Which has nothing to do with edhopper Aug 2014 #17
nope, riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #23
Now your quoting edhopper Aug 2014 #29
these are my own words riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #31
And what of the fact that edhopper Aug 2014 #32
can you undertand that filing now entails special IRS approved tax compliant agent even if you make riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #36
I have searched on many sites edhopper Aug 2014 #37
it is there riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #40
And it is very searchable edhopper Aug 2014 #57
Want to know what bullshit this is edhopper Aug 2014 #12
^^ This ^^ COLGATE4 Aug 2014 #15
Good riddance. nt conservaphobe Aug 2014 #19
Ahhhh.......America is the best? nt Logical Aug 2014 #41
Ahhh... the U.S. Chamber of Commerce is the best? nt conservaphobe Aug 2014 #70
Having lived abroad, I have absolutely no idea why this article is so needlessly controversial here Number23 Aug 2014 #21
thank you riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #24
Rubbish... the Chamber has been spreading this BS for years JCMach1 Aug 2014 #22
you returned riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #25
I think you are confused Art_from_Ark Aug 2014 #72
Art is correct... JCMach1 Aug 2014 #73
He really seems invested in his narrative. I wonder why? Disinformation is not cute. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2014 #74
well I know many others who tell me otherwise riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #75
I'm not sure I'm following you, but Art_from_Ark Aug 2014 #78
Perhaps if you are returning to the USA you are doing everything right riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #82
No, I'm not a Japanese citizen Art_from_Ark Aug 2014 #83
I was an expat for seven years and filed and never had problems. oldandhappy Aug 2014 #27
how long ago were you there? riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #33
In the nineties. oldandhappy Aug 2014 #62
I'm worried at some point I am going to hit the ceiling and will have to start filing under FATCA davidpdx Aug 2014 #28
you must still file even if you make less than 97 k. riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #42
Yes, I still file davidpdx Aug 2014 #56
I'm caught up in this riverbendviewgal... dual citizen USA/Canada.. nenagh Aug 2014 #30
First $97,000 edhopper Aug 2014 #34
Thank you, then I won't pay US taxes ... but the tax forms must be submitted nenagh Aug 2014 #38
could you let us all know what the tax agent will charge riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #45
I still am confused.. I'm sorry riverbendviewgal... nenagh Aug 2014 #49
you have a american passport riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #55
Thanks for all your help... I will read the Isaac Brock Society website.. nenagh Aug 2014 #61
you are welcome riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #43
riverbendviewgal... do you mean did I take oath of US citizenship? nenagh Aug 2014 #46
no, oath to the queen riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #58
I always lived in Canada..except for the first few years (7 or so) nenagh Aug 2014 #67
sorry, voting would not lose you citizenship riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #71
Not sure what CLN is.. I have a lot to learn.. nenagh Aug 2014 #50
CLN is Citizen loss of Nationality riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #60
Hrmm I wonder why they're renouncing US Citizenship, rather than just returning home Hippo_Tron Aug 2014 #35
that and other reasons riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #39
I know half a dozen Japanese-English translators Lydia Leftcoast Aug 2014 #51
I'm a dual Irish and American citizen and seriously contemplate retiring to Ireland for all that riderinthestorm Aug 2014 #44
seriously think if this is what you want riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #48
Now imagine if the Irish tax authorities were killing you with paperwork and reporting requirements. Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #63
you hit the nail on the head riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #69
But isn't that normal? Generic Brad Aug 2014 #47
exactly riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #53
We would be against that policy Generic Brad Aug 2014 #54
Germany is looking for skilled labor, other areas of Europe as well whereisjustice Aug 2014 #52
to be German citizen one is not allowed to be a dual citizen riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #64
If you're a UK citizen living outside of the UK, you don't owe UK taxes. Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #59
to keep money in the USA riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #66
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #65
are you living forever overseas or going back to live in the USA riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #68
I no longer see any value to being a US Citizen we are no longer the land of the free nor do we GiveEmEnoughRope Aug 2014 #76
Welcome to DU riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #80
If I were right out of college and found the right avebury Aug 2014 #77
Indeed riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #81
Lah-dee-dah - 1/1,000 of 1% of US citizens became citizens of another country last year hatrack Aug 2014 #79
good, there should be a quota for the millions treestar Aug 2014 #84
Taxes I guess Demsrule86 Aug 2014 #85
Bullshit source. Not clicking a US Chamber of Commerce link. closeupready Aug 2014 #86
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