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In reply to the discussion: Rise of the 'Unholy Alliance' of Libertarians and Leftists [View all]joshcryer
(62,536 posts)57. Trotsky was wrong.
At the Congress Trotsky rounded on the Workers' Opposition:
"They have come out with dangerous slogans. They have made a fetish of democratic principles. They have placed the workers' right to elect representatives above the Party. As if the Party were not entitled to assert its dictatorship even if that dictatorship temporarily clashed with the passing moods of the workers' democracy!"
Trotsky spoke of the "revolutionary historical birthright of the Party":
"The Party is obliged to maintain its dictatorship...regardless of temporary vacillations even in the working class...The dictatorship does not base itself at every given moment on the formal principle of a workers' democracy..."
http://www.marxists.org/archive/brinton/1970/workers-control/06.htm#h1
"They have come out with dangerous slogans. They have made a fetish of democratic principles. They have placed the workers' right to elect representatives above the Party. As if the Party were not entitled to assert its dictatorship even if that dictatorship temporarily clashed with the passing moods of the workers' democracy!"
Trotsky spoke of the "revolutionary historical birthright of the Party":
"The Party is obliged to maintain its dictatorship...regardless of temporary vacillations even in the working class...The dictatorship does not base itself at every given moment on the formal principle of a workers' democracy..."
http://www.marxists.org/archive/brinton/1970/workers-control/06.htm#h1
We have literally nothing in common with fucking laissez-faire capitalists. Nothing. Literally. The idea that this is actually being proposed by so called socialists is beyond comprehension. Read this post I made to see what so called Libertarians say and what they mean. They are kings among kings of doublespeak and misinformation: http://www.democraticunderground.com/100278930
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our small family business is a corporation as most small family businesses.
KittyWampus
Aug 2014
#13
Yea I should have made it more clear since some tend to strive to take shit how they want to.
L0oniX
Aug 2014
#42
"Democrats who approve of torture, panopticon-levels of warrantless surveillance, rendition...
woo me with science
Aug 2014
#18
How would opposing corporate bailouts NOT be liberal or Progressive? nt
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2014
#53
As bad as libertarians are, a true libertarian would not support the corporate oligarchy
AZ Progressive
Aug 2014
#3
K&R The oligarchs and fascists succeed by keeping the people divided.
woo me with science
Aug 2014
#8
Some have been trying for a while to forge that "unholy alliance" right here on DU
Number23
Aug 2014
#44
Well, the 'idological' chain-cutters were on-sale last month. Too bad you missed-out.
appal_jack
Aug 2014
#50
I agree that corporate power is the gigantic blindspot of most libertarians.
appal_jack
Aug 2014
#58
I get it. But agreeing on some issues doesn't mean needing to swallow the whole agenda.
woo me with science
Aug 2014
#15
The interesting thing here is that the ones crying the loudest are ideologically locked on
TheKentuckian
Aug 2014
#23
Well Trotsky said you should be prepared to make a United Front..........
socialist_n_TN
Aug 2014
#26
I'm not a "Trotskyite" either since that's what Stalinists called us.....
socialist_n_TN
Aug 2014
#41
Once again, I don't CARE what they mean by a particular type of "opposition".......
socialist_n_TN
Aug 2014
#64
"I also dislike the extreme radical Left". Me, too, even though I used to be.....
AverageJoe90
Aug 2014
#56
Most of those now claiming to be Libertarians are embarassed former Republicans.
JoePhilly
Aug 2014
#47
Unfortunately, it seems we've been making a fair number of mistakes lately.
AverageJoe90
Aug 2014
#54