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aint_no_life_nowhere

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7. So much for Josie's (Wilson's) version

Wed Aug 20, 2014, 12:25 AM

Aug 2014

Your point 2. Most likely he was shot from a distance as there was no gunpowder residue on the body, the jury is still out on his clothes.

If he was shot at extremely close range in the forehead when bum rushing Wilson, as Josie claims, he likely would have had gunpowder on that body part, as he was wearing no mask or facial covering that we know of. Michael Baden said that final shot would have immediately killed Brown and so he wouldn't have traveled far thereafter.

"...All of the sudden, [Brown] just started to bum rush him,” Josie added. “He just started coming at him, full-speed, and so [Wilson] just started shooting, and [Brown] just kept coming.”

“So [Wilson] really thinks [Brown] was on something, because he just kept coming. It was unbelievable. And so he finally ended up, the final shot was in the forehead, and then he fell about two to three feet in front of the officer.”

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Regarding forensic evidence. [View all] Uncle Joe Aug 2014 OP

So no hand injury. onecaliberal Aug 2014 #1

Apparently not, onecaliberal. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #2

I think you're either misreading the question - or the report. Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #10

I misread the question, I thought the poster was referring to hand abrasions or bruises Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #17

I wasn't talking about the graze injury, onecaliberal Aug 2014 #23

Then we're in agreement, onecaliberal. n/t Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #33

Yes, we are. onecaliberal Aug 2014 #35

Yup! Too many amateur forensic experts here (amateur experts -- oxymoron). longship Aug 2014 #3

Do you disagree with Baden, Parcells and Crump's statements? Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #4

No. I disagree with the speculative DU posts that go beyond the science. longship Aug 2014 #5

Where did my "speculation" differ from their expert opinions or statements? n/t Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #6

As to #1 - Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #11

It seems to be the only possibilities that the experts cited. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #12

Hands above the head was not the only option identified by Dr. Bader (2nd autopsy, Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #14

I'm wondering if there is a third possibility? Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #15

It could well be. I read an article which mentioned several similar possibilities Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #20

Except that doesn't square with the testimony of the five witnesses. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #30

Unfortunately, eye witnesses are not always reliable Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #34

I agree but the five named in this thread are in basic agreement, a sixth on your link concurs Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #36

Unlikely he would charge while holding his hands up. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #28

If I am, then so is the doctor retained by the family to do the autopsy. Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #29

Exactly. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #32

Not necessarily yours. But there are multiple threads on this issue. longship Aug 2014 #13

I never claimed to be a forensic pathologist but I see no harm in discussing the issue. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #19

I wouldn't use Crump's comments as an expert. pintobean Aug 2014 #21

Crump is their attorney but I don't believe he would made that kind of statement had Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #31

So much for Josie's (Wilson's) version aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #7

I agree with your take on it, aint_no_life_nowhere, but I felt compelled to put that qualifier in Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #8

Your post did trigger a question in my mind though, why didn't they get access to his clothes? n/t Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #9

Chain of custody for the evidence SwankyXomb Aug 2014 #16

I hear you, SwankyXomb but if you're going so far as to get a second opinion autopsy on the body Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #18

I agree that all of the people performing an autopsy mythology Aug 2014 #24

it blows my mind that they did not give Baden the x rays or anything about residue. bettyellen Aug 2014 #25

Just a non-expert observation...leading to a questions, not a conclusion HereSince1628 Aug 2014 #22

Good point. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #27

There probably is no gunpowder residue on clothes. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #26