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Lee-Lee

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14. The great irony in your statement

Wed Aug 20, 2014, 06:42 AM

Aug 2014

Have you ever fired a handgun?

At a moving target?

Under stress?

When failure means that moving target might kill you?

Yeah, it's not a video game alright.

To put this silly little meme in perspective, that German cop had backup ready to shoot center mass if his shot failed. In most US agencies once an officer has that backup they would use a taser or other less-lethal. But none of those are an option when you are alone.

Even the meme also gets it right that the NYC case was mentally ill, the German drunk- way, way different levels of threat and ability from a sober but mentally I'll person in a psychotic break and a drunk.

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There are two possible ways how police can handle a sword-wielding mad-man: [View all] DetlefK Aug 2014 OP

It looks like German Cops have more courage, empathy or both. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #1

I'm betting on better oversight eridani Aug 2014 #2

Even better oversight would be good. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #4

Love the German Police Sparhawk60 Aug 2014 #21

So sad, how anyone could shoot to kill someone that didn't pose a Live and Learn Aug 2014 #3

You can't be so ignorant to think or BELIEVE a knife is not a threat to anyone's life?!!! rustydog Aug 2014 #72

Whilst it's fun to point fingers, real NYC cops have told me... TreasonousBastard Aug 2014 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author Live and Learn Aug 2014 #7

Ad you know this, how? TreasonousBastard Aug 2014 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author Live and Learn Aug 2014 #13

So, you admit you don't know anything about this, but... TreasonousBastard Aug 2014 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author Live and Learn Aug 2014 #19

Even the largest body mass probably doesn't have to be shot at 12 times. thesquanderer Aug 2014 #9

Another expert chiming in. TreasonousBastard Aug 2014 #12

If every topic on DU could only be discussed by experts thesquanderer Aug 2014 #24

+1 daleanime Aug 2014 #28

+1 Tommymac Aug 2014 #31

Maybe cvoogt Aug 2014 #36

I never said I was an expert. I said... TreasonousBastard Aug 2014 #49

;) cvoogt Aug 2014 #51

And fewer posts is a bad thing? Meanwhile... TreasonousBastard Aug 2014 #48

Lots of experts around DU these days... cwydro Aug 2014 #25

-1 daleanime Aug 2014 #29

+2 former9thward Aug 2014 #45

A professional well trained LEO should be able to deal with a knife wielder without killing them Tommymac Aug 2014 #32

That depends, on ground yes on concrete the chance of ricochet and shrapnel makes injury to Sam1 Aug 2014 #23

True Puzzledtraveller Aug 2014 #44

Then, the obvious fact to take away from this is: kentauros Aug 2014 #69

Kick, kick, kick! Heidi Aug 2014 #6

It's like making a zombie slow down, right? sakabatou Aug 2014 #8

K&R ReRe Aug 2014 #10

The great irony in your statement Lee-Lee Aug 2014 #14

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If you can't handle the risk or stress, don't take the job. Live and Learn Aug 2014 #22

Not saying that at all Lee-Lee Aug 2014 #30

There are two cops in the upper picture. Your argument is invalid. DetlefK Aug 2014 #27

That upper picture has so many issues Lee-Lee Aug 2014 #33

Because tasers are also misused by cops? DetlefK Aug 2014 #37

When somebody is doing something that warrants getting tasered Lee-Lee Aug 2014 #39

With 2 well trained LEOs there was no need to fire a shot. Tommymac Aug 2014 #34

a shot to the leg is still considered deadly force. Angus86 Aug 2014 #41

I never mentioned... ReRe Aug 2014 #46

I'm sorry, are you a expert on combat shooting? Have you ever even fired a firearm, oneshooter Aug 2014 #59

What??? ReRe Aug 2014 #62

well... Angus86 Aug 2014 #63

Don't agree... ReRe Aug 2014 #65

What don't you agree with? Angus86 Aug 2014 #67

Ahhh... ReRe Aug 2014 #68

I'm not a cop. Angus86 Aug 2014 #70

FYI, I'm not a troll ReRe Aug 2014 #73

Glad it worked out for him... NaturalHigh Aug 2014 #15

In the movies, the police are trained. Real life, not so much. LiberalArkie Aug 2014 #18

Well, they're not trained to shoot for the leg. That much is true. NaturalHigh Aug 2014 #20

Wen I was growing up, the police used the gun as a last resort LiberalArkie Aug 2014 #38

+1 Tommymac Aug 2014 #35

In the movies sarisataka Aug 2014 #60

Assumes only 2 alternatives. Both require guns? HereSince1628 Aug 2014 #26

These silly memes are all stupid Lee-Lee Aug 2014 #40

Not surprising, considering the race Matrosov Aug 2014 #42

Maybe getting stabbed is in a German cop's job description. badtoworse Aug 2014 #43

Shootings involving police are actually so rare in Germany... DetlefK Aug 2014 #52

Or they could just drop the sword and surrender Reter Aug 2014 #47

LOL - what a difference a day makes (RE: shooting someone in the leg)... cbdo2007 Aug 2014 #50

You have to serve up just the right buffet dish. Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #58

i dunno--I think the cops are so deeply disillusioned by the corrupt world librechik Aug 2014 #53

I predict gun nuts will hate your post. Rex Aug 2014 #54

knives don't slice, people do BainsBane Aug 2014 #55

And guns don't kill people, the bullets in the gun however... Rex Aug 2014 #56

Read what Gandhi said about just this. nt Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #57

Aim for center mass rjj621 Aug 2014 #61

If you don't get why a cop on a busy street in NYC.... NCTraveler Aug 2014 #64

"shooting in the leg to stop them" is a fantasy meme perpetuated by hollywood. GOLGO 13 Aug 2014 #66

Which isn't to say the second option is possible in all cases. nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #71