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Wed Aug 20, 2014, 09:23 AM Aug 2014

The Seamy Underbelly Of Ferguson Starts To Appear (Updated) [View all]

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/18/1322691/-The-Seamy-Underbelly-Of-Ferguson-Starts-To-Appear




Whenever things make absolutely no sense, I think it can be said that while it may make no sense to you, it may make sense to someone. And nine times out of ten, what has previously appeared nonsensical may be sensical, especially if someone somewhere is making money from the nonsense.

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Very simply, a town that bankrolls itself through racial profiling and harassment of minority citizens in penny ante driving violations which are then ratcheted up in both costs and ramifications through manipulative measures, is EXACTLY the kind of place where a jaywalking offense would spiral out of control. There really is something very systemically awful going on in that town and it is tragic that it took the death of black teenager to draw one's eyes to it. Please follow below for the full, horrifying story.

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“Despite Ferguson’s relative poverty, fines and court fees comprise the second largest source of revenue for the city, a total of 2,635,400,” according to the ArchCity Defenders report. And in 2013, the Ferguson Municipal Court issued 24,532 arrest warrants and 12,018 cases, “or about 3 warrants and 1.5 cases per household.”


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How can this be? we ask ourselves. Well, one of the fruits of disparate policing and the spiraling of charges and the mass transformation of an entire population into fugitives due to outstanding bench warrants is that that same population has now been successfully disenfranchised of their vote. Felons don't vote and fugitives don't vote.



Emphasis mine.
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k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. n/t Laelth Aug 2014 #1
K&R - Connecting the dots... myrna minx Aug 2014 #2
Notice Ferguson is very near St Louis International Airport hexola Aug 2014 #3
The property values are most impacted by the School Districts Gore1FL Aug 2014 #33
think how many people probably lost their TWA jobs when it went extinct JCMach1 Aug 2014 #64
The basic problem of Ferguson: Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #4
Not just as animals… as cash cows. KittyWampus Aug 2014 #6
It is a Money Thing!!! littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #38
Minor correction: "4,000 animals" (not 400), which makes the comment all the more telling, imo. VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #39
Apartheid. moondust Aug 2014 #45
^^This^^ jen63 Aug 2014 #75
Has Rachel Maddow touched on this yet? The huge number of violations in proportion to population? KittyWampus Aug 2014 #5
I believe Rachel did address that issue a while back. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #21
That's very revealing Bragi Aug 2014 #7
The underlying problem may be that cities, whether Detroit or Ferguson or some small town in the JDPriestly Aug 2014 #25
In LA during the time of the crash, they hired 1000 new parking patrol BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #46
I have had some tea-party friends beating on me that all Democrats are racist LiberalArkie Aug 2014 #47
You can't fix loony BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #48
All those Dixiecrat racists were Democrats. Some evolved, and the rest became Republicans. Zen Democrat Aug 2014 #56
The Third Way. Note that I am an Elizabeth Warren supporter. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #54
When I drove a "poorer-looking" car, the LAPD was much freer about stopping me for chickenshit villager Aug 2014 #55
Nixon is a Dem xmas74 Aug 2014 #66
Thank you for educating me BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #69
He is a more conservative Dem xmas74 Aug 2014 #71
^ n/t BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2014 #26
You should see St. Ann Gore1FL Aug 2014 #34
Same thing was going on in Bell, CA SwankyXomb Aug 2014 #35
Would love to see a map of their voting district and PuraVidaDreamin Aug 2014 #8
This is a thousand towns across America alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #9
Unfortunately, it isn't just the black experience. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #28
Follow the money. You'll seldom get lost. n/t sarge43 Aug 2014 #10
It also means long-term unemployment and poverty Sanity Claws Aug 2014 #11
+1 BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #49
K&R And once again, the problem leads back to corporate corruption. woo me with science Aug 2014 #12
+1 ...see post 18 for my opinion. L0oniX Aug 2014 #19
There's something rotten in Ferguson... ReRe Aug 2014 #13
The Jennings PD was disbanded in 2010 for corruption starroute Aug 2014 #40
That's what I was referring to... ReRe Aug 2014 #42
Awesome truths there, starroute! K&R n/t bobthedrummer Aug 2014 #70
Kick and rec. Taxation without representation. riqster Aug 2014 #14
the prison industrial complex has a pervasive corrupting effect too phantom power Aug 2014 #15
A new form of voter suppression. Can anything get worse? jwirr Aug 2014 #16
The entire machine needs to be shut down... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #17
Hmm a militarized country using excessive force in other countries has a militarized police force... L0oniX Aug 2014 #18
I posted this thread a few nights ago very late and it dropped off the radar (as VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #41
Coming to other cities in America..... blackspade Aug 2014 #20
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Aug 2014 #22
I also see signs of an attempt to make the police department financially self-sustaining. Baitball Blogger Aug 2014 #23
Thank you. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #30
Exactly so tkmorris Aug 2014 #24
I read they have an average 6% voter turnout librechik Aug 2014 #29
I believe it's 12% KamaAina Aug 2014 #36
12% is voter turnout for entire city. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #76
So that's, what, a thousand votes? KamaAina Aug 2014 #77
Thats probably a good guess. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #78
yup--and the widespread use of this sort of thing is why librechik Aug 2014 #27
tax cuts are awesome. pansypoo53219 Aug 2014 #31
k and r. all of this bbgrunt Aug 2014 #32
The soft white underbelly. KamaAina Aug 2014 #37
Here in Richmond, VA., we have Henrico County officers who target Richmond citizens. WCLinolVir Aug 2014 #43
Part of the seamy underbelly... TeeYiYi Aug 2014 #44
The cases and warrants do seem excessive but the $2,635,400 isn't even A Simple Game Aug 2014 #50
How many of those cops are part-time? Lee-Lee Aug 2014 #52
You may be right, I hadn't thought of part timers, but still doesn't seem like much. n/t A Simple Game Aug 2014 #58
As I said in another thread this is easily fixed if the MO legislature and Governer will act Lee-Lee Aug 2014 #51
The GOP is in the majority in the the legislature xmas74 Aug 2014 #72
So do a ballot initiative Lee-Lee Aug 2014 #74
In other places a name like "Justice for Education Act" xmas74 Aug 2014 #79
I wonder whether the ACLU would sue to get those who were set up to be tblue37 Aug 2014 #53
Huge K&R woo me with science Aug 2014 #57
k&r. Thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Aug 2014 #59
Felons should not lose the right to vote indivisibleman Aug 2014 #60
+1 dreamnightwind Aug 2014 #67
agreed. indivisibleman Aug 2014 #73
K&R Squinch Aug 2014 #61
Wow. DU is depressing today. The truth hurts. K&R. Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2014 #62
I think this is a real under-reported aspect of poverty and policing in this country JCMach1 Aug 2014 #63
No wonder El Shaman Aug 2014 #65
kick woo me with science Aug 2014 #68
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