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uncle ray

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42. you might then be surprised to be a juror.

Wed Aug 20, 2014, 07:49 PM

Aug 2014

because everything is not presented to the jurors to review, and the evidence that is presented is likely to be slanted to guarantee a desired outcome. when i served, i was slightly shocked that we were instructed to ignore glaring inconsistencies, such as incorrect date stamps on videos relating to the crime, evidence bags showing signs of possible tampering, etc.

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For the "wait for evidence" crowd. [View all] JaneyVee Aug 2014 OP

Ooh! I am also curious. IdaBriggs Aug 2014 #1

There seems to be a lot of them around these days. JaneyVee Aug 2014 #3

I doubt, anyone ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #30

What i see RobertEarl Aug 2014 #39

I see the "innocent before guilty" thrown around here too... L0oniX Aug 2014 #73

... Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #22

Me too... ReRe Aug 2014 #49

Idiots Rule billhicks76 Aug 2014 #58

What evidence has been presented against ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #2

Is that illegal? JaneyVee Aug 2014 #4

I think it was the Daily Caller Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #20

Michael Brown would have gotten on top of him and pummelled him into... Anansi1171 Aug 2014 #5

For some pigs just being black is aggressive enough to shoot first especially if they are running... L0oniX Aug 2014 #75

I can't stand those "wait for evidence" folks either. Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #6

that's the President of the United States who has to be careful of the way he talks about Racism JI7 Aug 2014 #13

Supposedly made up of reasoned people. Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #19

this board ? no JI7 Aug 2014 #26

On your other point. Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #27

the President understands where this country is when it comes to Racism , just saying JI7 Aug 2014 #28

That made me laugh ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #31

So it's like Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #33

No ... not at all. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #34

I thought it was obvious in the OP I was referring to DU. JaneyVee Aug 2014 #18

So, in real life, you say wait for the evidence, pintobean Aug 2014 #35

Apparently if you're anonymous you have to say that Wilson was undoubtedly a murderous racist Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #38

It's flattering that pintobean Aug 2014 #41

Since when is the Good Ol' Boy network due process? R B Garr Aug 2014 #105

no non-anonymous person holds your position Enrique Aug 2014 #7

I agree. It was for the DU crowd. JaneyVee Aug 2014 #15

"Waiting for Evidence" = "Shut up and stop being outraged" n2doc Aug 2014 #8

I'm waiting to see if anyone who has a clue about police training pipoman Aug 2014 #9

I've been waiting since June 2013 for the same Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #17

If Brown attacked the officer, tried to grab his gun, hit him in the face and broke bones, Vattel Aug 2014 #10

I know for an absolute fact madville Aug 2014 #11

you might then be surprised to be a juror. uncle ray Aug 2014 #42

So you're waiting for proof that 2 of the 6 holes were really in Browns head? Those ARE kill shots. L0oniX Aug 2014 #76

The shot placement is fact at this point madville Aug 2014 #81

Do you doubt there is a suspect too? L0oniX Aug 2014 #83

If the DA or Grand Jury determine a crime has been committed madville Aug 2014 #93

You know that if it were anyone else they would be spending at least 24 hours in jail. L0oniX Aug 2014 #94

Correct madville Aug 2014 #99

As my own decision will have no affectations on the actual jury proceedings LanternWaste Aug 2014 #114

If he was running away I 100% agree with you! nt Logical Aug 2014 #12

Your premise is off Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #14

Ok, but we've heard both sides. JaneyVee Aug 2014 #23

Hardly Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #24

Again. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #101

here is a good answer: Enrique Aug 2014 #16

See post 15. JaneyVee Aug 2014 #21

He's describing what will happen in the grand jury pintobean Aug 2014 #25

If this was a Black Officer gunning down a rich white kid in Beverly Hills, well BaggersRDumb Aug 2014 #29

Reggie Hammond agrees. AngryAmish Aug 2014 #32

Stop making sense ...you are spoiling the troll party. L0oniX Aug 2014 #95

Then why bother having a trial? Why don't we just lynch the officer? Glassunion Aug 2014 #36

There you go again with this bullshit. First of all, you are severely disrespecting everyone who h Solomon Aug 2014 #43

+1000 nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #50

If he hasn't committed a crime, why should he be arrested? ColesCountyDem Aug 2014 #51

Huh? gollygee Aug 2014 #53

That wasn't what I asked. ColesCountyDem Aug 2014 #57

I heard four eye witnesses very soon after the event gollygee Aug 2014 #62

I heard them, too. ColesCountyDem Aug 2014 #64

Would any of them lead to an arrest warrant gollygee Aug 2014 #65

Why should he face a preliminary, much less arrest? ColesCountyDem Aug 2014 #67

If you want to know why people are upset gollygee Aug 2014 #68

I know that. ColesCountyDem Aug 2014 #69

A dead teen taken down by 6 bullets with four eyewitnesses describing a miscarriage of justice Ed Suspicious Aug 2014 #103

The length of time can vary widely. n/t ColesCountyDem Aug 2014 #109

Oh no you didnt! There is no way in hell you were a public defender and saying there is no probable Solomon Aug 2014 #111

Prove probable cause. ColesCountyDem Aug 2014 #112

Because he is a murder "suspect"! L0oniX Aug 2014 #79

Says who? ColesCountyDem Aug 2014 #80

OFFS ...do you not believe there are 6 holes in Brown ...2 head shots? L0oniX Aug 2014 #82

Don't presume to tell me what I do and do not know, thank you very much. ColesCountyDem Aug 2014 #85

Oh ...now a jay walker is "suspect" ...whatever ...have a nice day. L0oniX Aug 2014 #88

I didn't say that, and you know very well I didn't. ColesCountyDem Aug 2014 #92

What do you mean there I go again? Glassunion Aug 2014 #60

The longer any evidence is withheld the more time there is for........ wandy Aug 2014 #37

You seem to know a lot for person that wasn't there. maced666 Aug 2014 #40

What "eye witnesses" said Mike Brown "rushed" the cop? BuelahWitch Aug 2014 #44

Link to those dozen witnesses please. I can't prove a negative, but you should be able to prove this pnwmom Aug 2014 #45

What dozen eye witnesses are those? gollygee Aug 2014 #55

So he kept charging *after* being shot several times? Was he a Terminator? nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #56

Eye Witness account who didn't know Michael Brown and not a resident of 1monster Aug 2014 #61

Btw, the "dozen eye witnesses" claim was retracted. jeff47 Aug 2014 #66

Ah, using the "pull stuff out of your ass and then run away" gambit, are you? Always impressive. Squinch Aug 2014 #84

Excellent questions. blackspade Aug 2014 #46

There is a difference between "justified" and evidence in a court of law. cheyanne Aug 2014 #47

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #48

I would suggest that you pintobean Aug 2014 #52

Jury is out on that one. Rex Aug 2014 #86

Gee, who could have seen that coming? pintobean Aug 2014 #90

Thank you for saying that. Seriously. n/t nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #96

When was the last time you were told by a police officer to "get the fuck out of the road" logosoco Aug 2014 #54

Why are you so sure he attacked Wilson? nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #59

What evidence would make you think that it wasn't the action of a trigger happy cop? mythology Aug 2014 #63

What evidence? A live 18 year old. Without 6 bullet wounds. That's SIX. Squinch Aug 2014 #87

2 direct ...intentional kill ...head shots. L0oniX Aug 2014 #97

I am waiting for all the evidence AnalystInParadise Aug 2014 #70

From my perspective GitRDun Aug 2014 #71

The 'wait for evidence' = wait for Michael Brown's corpse to be convicted Chisox08 Aug 2014 #72

The facts do not agree AnalystInParadise Aug 2014 #74

What part of shot at didn't you understand. Chisox08 Aug 2014 #78

The 2 head shots are "intentional" kill shots. L0oniX Aug 2014 #91

That was all of the evidence I needed. Chisox08 Aug 2014 #100

What part of ongoing investigation do you not understand? AnalystInParadise Aug 2014 #98

Where in post did I refer to him as a pig? Chisox08 Aug 2014 #102

The person after you AnalystInParadise Aug 2014 #104

To "wait for the evidence" means you assume the police were justified in the killing. Kablooie Aug 2014 #77

The rule is if you are a pig suspect you don't get arrested but if you are not a pig ...then ...well L0oniX Aug 2014 #89

It doesn't mean that 840high Aug 2014 #106

first of all, he didn't run away from gunfire TorchTheWitch Aug 2014 #107

That took courage to post. Thanks. 840high Aug 2014 #113

Some are still "waiting for evidence" in the Trayvon Martin killing. U4ikLefty Aug 2014 #108

I Believe Sparhawk60 Aug 2014 #110